Ya gotta love this peckerhead Dion.....he pulls his head out of his ass just long enough to shoot himself in the foot. "We will raise the GST".....GO LIBERALS!!!
sabotaged ? how does he get away with making so many outrageous claims , so what he was environment minister at some point in history . he didn't do anything great during that short time in that position.
Unbelievable. 13 Years of promises by the Liberal Gov't with nothing to show for it and now this gutter snipe has the gall to say that Harper sabotaged the climate change efforts.
To bad Mr. Dion that the only Kyoto your going to see is the one licking itself.
"Freakinoldguy" said Unbelievable. 13 Years of promises by the Liberal Gov't with nothing to show for it and now this gutter snipe has the gall to say that Harper sabotaged the climate change efforts.
To bad Mr. Dion that the only Kyoto your going to see is the one licking itself.
It's disgusting isn't it? They signed Kyoto, did nothing to implement it, and now have the balls to criticize Harper.
Hey Dion is an expert on sabotage, so we have to wonder. He has single handedly sabotaged the Liberal's chance of forming a government in the forseeable future.
If the media were just a wee bit honest that would be the screaming headlines.
The cost of Kyoto
National Post Thursday, September 27, 2007
More news emerged this week that meeting Canada's Kyoto-mandated carbon emissions targets would cripple our economy. While complaining that the federal government was overestimating the emissions reductions its own made-in-Canada greenhouse gas plan will produce, the National Round Table on the Environment and the Economy (NRTEE) admitted that the cost of meeting our Kyoto targets would be "considerable" if Ottawa attempted to achieve them by 2012 -- the year the treaty expires. Meanwhile, Statistics Canada reported on Wednesday that almost all of our increased carbon emissions since 1990 was due to the increased production of exports. And since exports drive our prosperity and standard of living, the conclusion was inescapable: In order to reduce our greenhouse emissions, Canada would have to curtail its exports significantly, a move that would cost hundreds of thousands of jobs and make most Canadians poorer.
While there were plenty of hysterics from some media sources and environmental lobbyists over the NRTEE's statement that the federal government "overestimates the extent of emission reductions," most of these same sources neglected to report their recommendation that Canada not attempt to meet its Kyoto commitments by 2012, for fear of plunging the country into economic chaos. Instead, the panel of scientists, economists and executives said "a longer-term national climate change policy framework is a more effective and necessary approach," which is exactly what the Conservative government has been saying for the past year.
Looking for the first time at the demand side of emissions, instead of the supply side, Statistics Canada concluded that nearly 99% of the increase in our emissions between 1990 and 2002 came "from the production of goods and services sent to international markets." StatsCan determined that emissions coming from goods produced for internal consumption rose a mere 0.4% during the study period, while greenhouse emissions released in the making of exports roared ahead by almost 50%.
That means that if Canada is to significantly reduce its greenhouse emissions, it would have to reduce its exports dramatically. But that would be financially suicidal for most individuals and governments.
All this serves to support the decision of Prime Minister Stephen Harper to sign on to the Asia-Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate (APPCDC), while also continuing to participate in international talks on a successor to the Kyoto accords. While the APPCDC does not lay out specific emission-reduction targets, it -- like Mr. Harper's own clean air plan -- sets out a more practical, longer-term approach. And, it includes, the United States, Australia, China and India, countries that are not bound by Kyoto.
Reducing man-made global warming is a worthy goal. But as Mr. Harper clearly understands, it is not one that we should seek to accomplish at the expense of our economy.
So lets give Dion some slack. He did nothing about GW except possibly fork over billions of taxpayer's money to Russia for credits, inadvertently saving Canada from a deep recession. If not bankruptcy.
Memo to Steffie
If you do not know what you are doing it's best to ask Stephen for advice or just do nothing.
Freakinoldguy wrote: Unbelievable. 13 Years of promises by the Liberal Gov't with nothing to show for it and now this gutter snipe has the gall to say that Harper sabotaged the climate change efforts.
To bad Mr. Dion that the only Kyoto your going to see is the one licking itself.
It's disgusting isn't it? They signed Kyoto, did nothing to implement it, and now have the balls to criticize Harper.
Actually a dose of reality is necessary here.
LIBRANOs have only one agenda to retain power.
They are not stupid and are fully aware that KYOTO and AGW are humbug.
They were well aware of the consequences of even attempting to implement KYOTO. If they had they would have been swinging from lampposts years past and Harper would be presiding over a majority government.
"ShepherdsDog" said Hey Dion is an expert on sabotage, so we have to wonder. He has single handedly sabotaged the Liberal's chance of forming a government in the forseeable future.
well dion couldn't win a nationwide vote for prime minister if we voted like the states did for leader , thing is we elect mp's and the race gets closer when you look at indidvidual ridings across canada .
think in the year since his election as leader he hasn't done much to really allow liberals to grow but they are still not finished .
"RUEZ" said Unbelievable. 13 Years of promises by the Liberal Gov't with nothing to show for it and now this gutter snipe has the gall to say that Harper sabotaged the climate change efforts.
To bad Mr. Dion that the only Kyoto your going to see is the one licking itself.
It's disgusting isn't it? They signed Kyoto, did nothing to implement it, and now have the balls to criticize Harper.
know were all suppose to be follish enough to believe that when they signed that treaty they sudden;y saved the worlds climate and environment , only a fool would believe that .
but now they can critise haprer to make themselves look good and score points .
Well really just what else did you expect from a clique of shysters who spun inuendo of a "hidden agenda" into a dictatorial regime, renowned for it's corruption. it now appears Shreider gave the LIBRANOs more bribes than the CONs.....are we really surprised.
Currently the LPC is broke.....Elections Canada indicates they have raised the same as the NDP and they have millions in unpaid leadership debt.....with no expectation of donations to pay that off. The biggest problem is the LIBRANOs have forgot how to finance their party without having the gravy train of being the government.
The mentality and morality of the LPC more resembles Hugo Chavez.......
Freakinoldguy wrote: Unbelievable. 13 Years of promises by the Liberal Gov't with nothing to show for it and now this gutter snipe has the gall to say that Harper sabotaged the climate change efforts.
To bad Mr. Dion that the only Kyoto your going to see is the one licking itself.
It's disgusting isn't it? They signed Kyoto, did nothing to implement it, and now have the balls to criticize Harper.
Actually a dose of reality is necessary here.
LIBRANOs have only one agenda to retain power.
They are not stupid and are fully aware that KYOTO and AGW are humbug.
They were well aware of the consequences of even attempting to implement KYOTO. If they had they would have been swinging from lampposts years past and Harper would be presiding over a majority government.
100% agree.
All of them (who have a brain in their heads) will talk Kyoto and surf the popularity of it but none want to be the PM who must take those drastic acts to reach those goals. A couple years from now when nothing has changed, these shucksters and fraud artists will vanish like the Y2K scammers.
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I can't reply until I have finished puking. I should bill Dion for upchucking my dinner.
Now I have to build a fire and BBQ another free ranging chicken.
To bad Mr. Dion that the only Kyoto your going to see is the one licking itself.
Unbelievable. 13 Years of promises by the Liberal Gov't with nothing to show for it and now this gutter snipe has the gall to say that Harper sabotaged the climate change efforts.
To bad Mr. Dion that the only Kyoto your going to see is the one licking itself.
A Chimp would garner about 40% of the votes.
If the media were just a wee bit honest that would be the screaming headlines.
National Post
Thursday, September 27, 2007
More news emerged this week that meeting Canada's Kyoto-mandated carbon emissions targets would cripple our economy. While complaining that the federal government was overestimating the emissions reductions its own made-in-Canada greenhouse gas plan will produce, the National Round Table on the Environment and the Economy (NRTEE) admitted that the cost of meeting our Kyoto targets would be "considerable" if Ottawa attempted to achieve them by 2012 -- the year the treaty expires. Meanwhile, Statistics Canada reported on Wednesday that almost all of our increased carbon emissions since 1990 was due to the increased production of exports. And since exports drive our prosperity and standard of living, the conclusion was inescapable: In order to reduce our greenhouse emissions, Canada would have to curtail its exports significantly, a move that would cost hundreds of thousands of jobs and make most Canadians poorer.
While there were plenty of hysterics from some media sources and environmental lobbyists over the NRTEE's statement that the federal government "overestimates the extent of emission reductions," most of these same sources neglected to report their recommendation that Canada not attempt to meet its Kyoto commitments by 2012, for fear of plunging the country into economic chaos. Instead, the panel of scientists, economists and executives said "a longer-term national climate change policy framework is a more effective and necessary approach," which is exactly what the Conservative government has been saying for the past year.
Looking for the first time at the demand side of emissions, instead of the supply side, Statistics Canada concluded that nearly 99% of the increase in our emissions between 1990 and 2002 came "from the production of goods and services sent to international markets." StatsCan determined that emissions coming from goods produced for internal consumption rose a mere 0.4% during the study period, while greenhouse emissions released in the making of exports roared ahead by almost 50%.
That means that if Canada is to significantly reduce its greenhouse emissions, it would have to reduce its exports dramatically. But that would be financially suicidal for most individuals and governments.
All this serves to support the decision of Prime Minister Stephen Harper to sign on to the Asia-Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate (APPCDC), while also continuing to participate in international talks on a successor to the Kyoto accords. While the APPCDC does not lay out specific emission-reduction targets, it -- like Mr. Harper's own clean air plan -- sets out a more practical, longer-term approach. And, it includes, the United States, Australia, China and India, countries that are not bound by Kyoto.
Reducing man-made global warming is a worthy goal. But as Mr. Harper clearly understands, it is not one that we should seek to accomplish at the expense of our economy.
So lets give Dion some slack. He did nothing about GW except possibly fork over billions of taxpayer's money to Russia for credits, inadvertently saving Canada from a deep recession. If not bankruptcy.
Memo to Steffie
If you do not know what you are doing it's best to ask Stephen for advice or just do nothing.
Actually its the legions of entitlement jerks who vote Liberal no matter who or what heads the party.
A Chimp would garner about 40% of the votes.
a fair sight more than Dion did
Freakinoldguy wrote:
Unbelievable. 13 Years of promises by the Liberal Gov't with nothing to show for it and now this gutter snipe has the gall to say that Harper sabotaged the climate change efforts.
To bad Mr. Dion that the only Kyoto your going to see is the one licking itself.
It's disgusting isn't it? They signed Kyoto, did nothing to implement it, and now have the balls to criticize Harper.
Actually a dose of reality is necessary here.
LIBRANOs have only one agenda to retain power.
They are not stupid and are fully aware that KYOTO and AGW are humbug.
They were well aware of the consequences of even attempting to implement KYOTO. If they had they would have been swinging from lampposts years past and Harper would be presiding over a majority government.
Hey Dion is an expert on sabotage, so we have to wonder. He has single handedly sabotaged the Liberal's chance of forming a government in the forseeable future.
well dion couldn't win a nationwide vote for prime minister if we voted like the states did for leader , thing is we elect mp's and the race gets closer when you look at indidvidual ridings across canada .
think in the year since his election as leader he hasn't done much to really allow liberals to grow but they are still not finished .
Unbelievable. 13 Years of promises by the Liberal Gov't with nothing to show for it and now this gutter snipe has the gall to say that Harper sabotaged the climate change efforts.
To bad Mr. Dion that the only Kyoto your going to see is the one licking itself.
know were all suppose to be follish enough to believe that when they signed that treaty they sudden;y saved the worlds climate and environment , only a fool would believe that .
but now they can critise haprer to make themselves look good and score points .
Currently the LPC is broke.....Elections Canada indicates they have raised the same as the NDP and they have millions in unpaid leadership debt.....with no expectation of donations to pay that off. The biggest problem is the LIBRANOs have forgot how to finance their party without having the gravy train of being the government.
The mentality and morality of the LPC more resembles Hugo Chavez.......
RUEZ Posted:
Freakinoldguy wrote:
Unbelievable. 13 Years of promises by the Liberal Gov't with nothing to show for it and now this gutter snipe has the gall to say that Harper sabotaged the climate change efforts.
To bad Mr. Dion that the only Kyoto your going to see is the one licking itself.
It's disgusting isn't it? They signed Kyoto, did nothing to implement it, and now have the balls to criticize Harper.
Actually a dose of reality is necessary here.
LIBRANOs have only one agenda to retain power.
They are not stupid and are fully aware that KYOTO and AGW are humbug.
They were well aware of the consequences of even attempting to implement KYOTO. If they had they would have been swinging from lampposts years past and Harper would be presiding over a majority government.
100% agree.
All of them (who have a brain in their heads) will talk Kyoto and surf the popularity of it but none want to be the PM who must take those drastic acts to reach those goals. A couple years from now when nothing has changed, these shucksters and fraud artists will vanish like the Y2K scammers.