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How Bill C-21 turned from banning handguns to hunting guns


Law & Order | 95888 hits | Dec 05 7:14 am | Posted by: DrCaleb
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The latest amendments proposed to the government's gun control bill, C-21, would prohibit large numbers of common hunting rifles, shotguns, as well as antique arms, cannons owned by historical re-enactors, and pricey collector pieces.

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  1. by avatar Scape
    Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:08 am
    Between this and the internet bill that is rigged to support failed legacy media that created the mess to begin with I don’t know how the Liberals are not trying to fail.

  2. by avatar DrCaleb
    Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:59 pm
    I don't think they are trying to fail. I think every party that operates from partisan perspectives will eventually fail. It's inevitable.

  3. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:25 pm
    yeah, looks like a solution in search of a problem to me.

  4. by avatar bootlegga
    Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:50 pm
    "Scape" said
    Between this and the internet bill that is rigged to support failed legacy media that created the mess to begin with I don’t know how the Liberals are not trying to fail.


    It's mostly just pandering to their largely urban base - especially those in the GTA and Lower Mainland - which doesn't understand why anyone needs any type of firearm.

    However, to most rational people, hunting rifles and shotguns are just another tool that farmers need, like tractors and seeders.

  5. by Thanos
    Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:39 pm
    This issue won't be enough to beat the Liberals. But it will be enough to combine with other issues like inflation to probably cause another Liberal minority. And it will also allow PeePee to start crowing "we got 'em now!" even after he scores no more seats in his first election as leader than Scheer or O'Toole got.

  6. by JaredMilne
    Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:25 am
    "bootlegga" said

    It's mostly just pandering to their largely urban base - especially those in the GTA and Lower Mainland - which doesn't understand why anyone needs any type of firearm.

    However, to most rational people, hunting rifles and shotguns are just another tool that farmers need, like tractors and seeders.


    And not just farmers. Don't most hunters these days eat whatever they kill, or at least sell the meat so it doesn't go to waste? Some people use their long guns to literally put food on the table. You don't even have to be a rural person to do it-some idiot here in St. Albert caused a coyote infestation in his neighbourhood when he left some deer carcasses he butchered out in the open.

    I was working for the Town of Morinville back in 2009, and I was attending the AUMA annual meeting in Calgary when Stephen Harper nixed the original long gun registry. He did that when he only had a minority-IIRC, he got support from 8 NDPers and 12 Liberals to pass the bill through Parliament. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those Opposition MPs had a lot of angry constituents banging on the doors of their riding offices about this issue. Party discipline is usually so strict in Canada that they wouldn't have broken ranks with the rest of their caucuses unless something was really, really important.

  7. by Thanos
    Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:38 am
    The rural NDP MPs are usually nowhere near as obtuse on this issue as their fellow travellers in the urban ridings are.

  8. by avatar DrCaleb
    Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:36 pm
    Untraceable 3D-printed 'ghost guns' on the rise in Canada

    Untraceable ghost guns a growing threat in Canada




    This is one of those times I think the CBC has a bias. Not in what it says, but the fact it totally ignores the important part of a story.

    It's impossible to either ban the distribution of patterns for ghost guns, or the materials used; without also banning all the legitimate uses of 3d printers. Guns are a symptom, not a cause.

  9. by avatar Scape
    Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:30 pm
    CBC has moral panic?

    *clutches pearls*

    Shocked I tell you shocked!!

  10. by avatar Strutz
    Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:34 pm
    "bootlegga" said
    Between this and the internet bill that is rigged to support failed legacy media that created the mess to begin with I don’t know how the Liberals are not trying to fail.


    It's mostly just pandering to their largely urban base - especially those in the GTA and Lower Mainland - which doesn't understand why anyone needs any type of firearm.

    However, to most rational people, hunting rifles and shotguns are just another tool that farmers need, like tractors and seeders.
    I'm quite sure that many even in the GTA and Lower Mainland understand and are also rational and get it. Not all urban people are blind to rural life.

    "DrCaleb" said
    It's impossible to either ban the distribution of patterns for ghost guns, or the materials used; without also banning all the legitimate uses of 3d printers. Guns are a symptom, not a cause.

    I'm still wowed by 3D technology and what it can create. It's very unfortunate, though not shocking I guess, that it is used for negative purposes. Knives of all types and other objects that can be used as weapons are just as deadly, albeit in a different way, as any type of gun or rifle. It's the level of hate (or whatever the fuck it is) that drives someone to actually take the life of another human being and I doubt at this point there is any way to change that.



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