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China becomes an issue in B.C. election as anti-Beijing activists challenge candidates


Provincial Politics | 207745 hits | Oct 16 3:11 pm | Posted by: Freakinoldguy
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The 'No BC for Xi' campaign lists candidates from all parties and labels them as to whether or not they are 'CCP leaning' or 'against CCP interference'

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  1. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:18 pm
    And this is why I love the people of Hong Kong. At least they're not afraid offending that prick Xi and his minions. But it's not just the CCP who is the problem it's our own provincial and federal politicians who, for whatever reasons keep attempting to give Red China favored status and free reign in Canada.

  2. by avatar herbie
    Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:54 pm
    China becomes an FRINGE issue in B.C. election

    FTFY.

    And Andrew Wilkinson promising MORE LNG export infrastructure for northern bc'ers (an actual thing the BC gov't has domain over) doesn't even get a mention.
    In spite of what you stated NOBODY is vying to give China favoured status at the moment except the CCCP.

  3. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:03 am
    "herbie" said
    China becomes an FRINGE issue in B.C. election

    FTFY.

    And Andrew Wilkinson promising MORE LNG export infrastructure for northern bc'ers (an actual thing the BC gov't has domain over) doesn't even get a mention.
    In spite of what you stated NOBODY is vying to give China favoured status at the moment except the CCCP.


    What about these NOBODY politicians who weren't trying to give China favored nation status and other perks? And before you try and tell me that it's a 10 year old article allow me to point out that the CCP has been ramping up their buying of politicians and bureaucrats world wide so why would they suddenly stop doing it in Canada and BC?


    Canada's spy agency suspects that cabinet ministers in two provinces are under the control of foreign governments, CBC News has learned.

    Several members of B.C. municipal governments are also under suspicion, Richard Fadden, the director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, told CBC News in an exclusive interview.

    "We're in fact a bit worried in a couple of provinces that we have an indication that there's some political figures who have developed quite an attachment to foreign countries," Fadden said.

    "The individual becomes in a position to make decisions that affect the country or the province or a municipality. All of a sudden, decisions aren't taken on the basis of the public good but on the basis of another country's preoccupations."

    He said the politicians and public servants see it as a long-standing relationship and have no idea they are being used.

    "There are several municipal politicians in British Columbia and in at least two provinces there are ministers of the Crown who we think are under at least the general influence of a foreign government."

    Fadden said the agency is in the process of discussing with the Privy Council Office the best way to inform those provinces there may be a problem.

    "We'll do the same with the public servants. I'm making this comment because I think it's a real danger that people be totally oblivious to this kind of issue."

    Fadden warned that foreign regimes — through universities and social clubs — will develop a relationship with people who have a connection to the homeland.

    "You invite somebody back to the homeland. You pay their trips and all of a sudden you discover that when an event is occurring that is of particular interest to country "X," you call up and you ask the person to take a particular view," Fadden said.

    At least five countries are surreptitiously recruiting future political prospects in universities, he said. Middle East countries are also involved.

    But China is the most aggressive, funding university clubs that are managed by people operating out of the embassy or consulates, Fadden said in a recent speech to Canadian police chiefs and security experts in Toronto.

    Chinese authorities also organize demonstrations against the Canadian government in respect to some of Canada's policies concerning China, Fadden said.

    "A number of countries take the view that if they can develop influence with people relatively early in their careers, they'll follow them through," Fadden said. "Before you know it, a country is providing them with money, there's some sort of covert guidance."

    Fadden said he is concerned that too much of the agency's resources are focused on fighting terrorism and not counter-espionage. That concentration leaves more chances to steal Canada's sensitive technology and trade secrets, worth billions of dollars a year.

    "The difficulty I have, as does everybody, is you have to balance where you allocate resources, but it most definitely is as serious problem, and if I had to guess, I'd say it was going to get worse," Fadden said.


    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/some-p ... s-1.909345

    So who do you think I should believe you, or CSIS?

    And as a matter of fact there's some ethnic Chinese Canadians in BC who are actually tracking politicians to see which ones seem to favour China.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/video/news/no ... i-BB1a6xgW

  4. by avatar herbie
    Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:09 pm
    Oh FFS "favouring China" would be political suicide in 2020.
    Unless you're thinking of those who are proposing more investment in gas & oil exports because they're secretly hoping China would even buy them.

  5. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:44 pm
    "herbie" said
    Oh FFS "favouring China" would be political suicide in 2020.
    Unless you're thinking of those who are proposing more investment in gas & oil exports because they're secretly hoping China would even buy them.


    It would only become political suicide only if it were publicly known that as a potential MLA you favored China. A fact which is the crux of the second article. The No Xi for BC crowd wants it made public about who's potentially leaning towards giving China preference and just to allay your fears and if the BC1 News is to be believed there's apparently more Liberals than NDP who favour China.

    And for the record it's far from just the oil and gas industry people who are favouring China and their interfering manipulative ways.


    Canada is an “attractive and permissive target” for Chinese interference that endangers the “foundations of our fundamental institutions, including our system of democracy itself,” according to a recent national security review.

    The reason, experts suggest, is because China’s Communist Party has won the support of some influential Canadians by using economic carrots and sticks, while public attention on Beijing’s broad campaign is “almost non-existent.”


    And from the "horses mouth"


    In an interview, Global News pressed Liberal MP David McGuinty, chair of the national security and intelligence committee, to explain why Canada is “permissive” of China’s methods.

    McGuinty said he could only answer by citing the report findings because of its sensitivity. He chose to read this quote: “The People’s Republic of China utilizes its growing economic wealth to mobilize interference operations:‘with deep coffers and the help of western enablers, the Chinese Communist Party uses money, rather than Communist ideology, as a powerful source of influence, creating parasitic relationships of long-term dependence.’”


    https://globalnews.ca/news/7075248/cana ... ve-target/

    So I'll ask again. Why should I believe your assertation that there's "no politicians in BC who have or will give into Chinese financial manipulation, when the statements from the No Xi crowd, CSIS, and the Chair of the National Security and Intelligence Committee point to that type of interference being fact?



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