Donald Trump, Melania Trump test positive for coronavirusUncle Sam | 207796 hits | Oct 02 4:25 am | Posted by: BeaverFever Commentsview comments in forum Page 1 You need to be a member of CKA and be logged into the site, to comment on news. |
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But there is something salutary in the Trump era about reality reasserting itself in this last twist of the viral knife. The man has spent years at war with reality: living in delusions, perpetuating fantasies, imagining hoaxes, constructing conspiracies, accruing debt, rewriting history constantly as self-serving myth. At some point, reality was going to get personal in return.
It's too bad that so many other people already, never mind those that haven't tested positive yet, are going to be going down the same road. It could have been avoided so easily.
"Tonight I tested positive for COVID-19. My symptoms are mild (light cough) and I'm feeling fine. I have begun a quarantine process in consultation with physicians," Conway tweeted. "As always, my heart is with everyone affected by this global pandemic."
Conway is now the sixth person who attended the event last week, where masks and social distancing were rare, known to have subsequently tested positive President Donald Trump, first lady Melania Trump, top Trump aide Hope Hicks, Republican Utah Sen. Mike Lee, Republican North Carolina Sen. Thom Tillis and University of Notre Dame President the Rev. John Jenkins are all confirmed to be positive for COVID-19.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-vo ... -1.5131385
Last week.
How many other people have all those people who were there been in contact with since?
On The National, they went through the list. It's in the hundreds.
At this point, I hope he gets better, but suffers long lasting consequences of the infection. Then he might have a little empathy for the millions of people he condemned to the same, while simultaneously removing their health coverage.
And before we get onto the Donald's personal experiences with the virus remember this. Politicians and their minions tell mistruths all the time and sadly it's left up to us to make the choice as to whether we want to believe them or not.
For example, does anyone still remember March 2020. We had Theresa Tam telling us that people don't need to wear masks? Yet now she's touting the virtue of masks and telling us that we all should wear one.
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1717905987907
So TBH, I could personally give a shit what Trump says about Covid 19 because, as an adult I've weighed the pro's and con's of his claims, compared then with others of varying experience and have made my decisions. So if I'm doing that, there are very likely still alot of Americans who feel the same way and won't follow their Presidents example solely based on his experiences.
And before we get onto the Donald's personal experiences with the virus remember this. Politicians and their minions tell mistruths all the time and sadly it's left up to us to make the choice as to whether we want to believe them or not.
For example, does anyone still remember March 2020. We had Theresa Tam telling us that people don't need to wear masks? Yet now she's touting the virtue of masks and telling us that we all should wear one.
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1717905987907
1) Science is almost never set in stone, it evolves. It's possible that with their knowledge at the time, they didn't think it necessary, or useful (in the case of cloth masks). They then learned and changed their advice. That's how science works, information changes recommendations and conclusions over time.
2) Lots of places were concerned about availability for health care. They were concerned of the mass purchasing of N95 when the hospitals needed it. Which considering the idiots who bought trucks full of toilet paper? Not a bad concern.
So TBH, I could personally give a shit what Trump says about Covid 19 because, as an adult I've weighed the pro's and con's of his claims, compared then with others of varying experience and have made my decisions. So if I'm doing that, there are very likely still alot of Americans who feel the same way and won't follow their Presidents example solely based on his experiences.
That's great, until some idiot following the presidents example, even if you don't, still results in you getting the virus. Someone not wearing a mask in a store, could literally just breathe on something, you could pick it up bring it home and touch your face and get the virus. Unless you're sterilizing everything you pick up at a store, in which case, well done!
The fact that people don't understand this astounds me.
“Week two is the worst because of the fact that you have the inflammatory response to the virus,” Cedric Dark, an assistant professor of emergency medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, told BuzzFeed News.
In the most severe cases, patients may experience a “cytokine storm,” an aggressive inflammatory immune response that causes severe lung damage. If unchecked, it can lead to multiple organ failure and death.
So knowing when exactly the president was infected and started experiencing symptoms can help assess his risks of a serious relapse.
“If we’re on week two of symptoms, then I’d feel more comfortable that he’s not going to get worse,” Dark said. “If on the other hand the president has been honest about his symptoms, then I’d be more concerned that he needs to be on alert until at least this weekend.”
The White House has its own advanced medical facility — so for Trump to return home isn’t like a regular patient being discharged from the hospital. “The level of monitoring he can have at the White House is just as good as you can get on a regular hospital floor in America,” Dark said.
Still, given the White House does not have an ICU, Wachter said that he would want to keep Trump under close observation at Walter Reed for a few days more, because of how rapidly patients can deteriorate, releasing him from the hospital only after three to four days of steady improvement without requiring oxygen.
Deterioration remains a possibility, Wachter warned. “There has got to be a least a 30% chance that he will get worse.”
Even patients who recover from the initial illness can experience longer-term problems including lung damage, neurological symptoms, and an increased risk of blood clots. Thousands of people have reported struggling with COVID-19 months after they first experienced symptoms.
And before we get onto the Donald's personal experiences with the virus remember this. Politicians and their minions tell mistruths all the time and sadly it's left up to us to make the choice as to whether we want to believe them or not.
For example, does anyone still remember March 2020. We had Theresa Tam telling us that people don't need to wear masks? Yet now she's touting the virtue of masks and telling us that we all should wear one.
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1717905987907
1) Science is almost never set in stone, it evolves. It's possible that with their knowledge at the time, they didn't think it necessary, or useful (in the case of cloth masks). They then learned and changed their advice. That's how science works, information changes recommendations and conclusions over time.
2) Lots of places were concerned about availability for health care. They were concerned of the mass purchasing of N95 when the hospitals needed it. Which considering the idiots who bought trucks full of toilet paper? Not a bad concern.
So TBH, I could personally give a shit what Trump says about Covid 19 because, as an adult I've weighed the pro's and con's of his claims, compared then with others of varying experience and have made my decisions. So if I'm doing that, there are very likely still alot of Americans who feel the same way and won't follow their Presidents example solely based on his experiences.
That's great, until some idiot following the presidents example, even if you don't, still results in you getting the virus. Someone not wearing a mask in a store, could literally just breathe on something, you could pick it up bring it home and touch your face and get the virus. Unless you're sterilizing everything you pick up at a store, in which case, well done!
The fact that people don't understand this astounds me.
Thank you