Iowa man sentenced to 16 years for setting LGBTQ flag on fireLaw & Order | 207152 hits | Dec 20 10:05 am | Posted by: N_Fiddledog Commentsview comments in forum Page 1 2 You need to be a member of CKA and be logged into the site, to comment on news. |
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Do this though:
No charges.
Why is this news?
Explain to me why burning the American flag is considered by some to be a valid statement of displeasure with someone or something while burning a LGBTQ2 flag is now considered a crime? And, what individual owns the LGBTQ2 flag anymore than what individual owns the American flag.
But, to be honest the only reason this idiot got sentenced to 16 big ones was because he was stupid enough to burn a LGBTQ2 flag in the current politically correct supercharged climate, while being a habitual offender.
A TV tuned to the news channel, a newspaper subscription and an internet connection so he could keep up with current events, combined with a little common sense on his part would have gone alongway in keeping him out of the rattle.
Burning your own flag is another matter. You might get a punch in the face from a bystander or a ticket for no fire permit.
So he burned someone else's property and got charged with arson.
Why is this news?
16 years for burning a flag? FFS that is beyond stupid.
Explain to me why burning the American flag is considered by some to be a valid statement of displeasure with someone or something while burning a LGBTQ2 flag is now considered a crime? And, what individual owns the LGBTQ2 flag anymore than what individual owns the American flag.
But, to be honest the only reason this idiot got sentenced to 16 big ones was because he was stupid enough to burn a LGBTQ2 flag in the current politically correct supercharged climate, while being a habitual offender.
A TV tuned to the news channel, a newspaper subscription and an internet connection so he could keep up with current events, combined with a little common sense on his part would have gone alongway in keeping him out of the rattle.
16 years for burning a flag that an infinitesimally small segment of the population cares about - now that is most definitely PC madness.
1. This wasn't his first conviction
2. The law doesn't set different jail sentences for different objects, it say if you burn x the max you can get is y
Because he was a repeat offender, he got the max.
Explain to me why burning the American flag is considered by some to be a valid statement of displeasure with someone or something while burning a LGBTQ2 flag is now considered a crime?
Explain to me why burning the American flag is considered by some to be a valid statement of displeasure with someone or something while burning a LGBTQ2 flag is now considered a crime? And, what individual owns the LGBTQ2 flag anymore than what individual owns the American flag.
But, to be honest the only reason this idiot got sentenced to 16 big ones was because he was stupid enough to burn a LGBTQ2 flag in the current politically correct supercharged climate, while being a habitual offender.
A TV tuned to the news channel, a newspaper subscription and an internet connection so he could keep up with current events, combined with a little common sense on his part would have gone alongway in keeping him out of the rattle.
16 years for burning a flag that an infinitesimally small segment of the population cares about - now that is most definitely PC madness.
The size of the population doesn't matter. What a completely ridiculous justification for letting a criminal off with a lesser sentence.
I think the problem is twofold
1. This wasn't his first conviction
2. The law doesn't set different jail sentences for different objects, it say if you burn x the max you can get is y
Because he was a repeat offender, he got the max.
You're absolutely correct, I over looked that myself.
He was convicted of third degree arson - max 2 years
Third degree harassment - 30 days
Reckless use of fire or explosives - 1 year max
But because the person himself set fire to flag BECAUSE it was an LGBT flag, prosecutors added a hate crime enhancement. (The same way would happen if someone say they painted a swastika on that wall because it was a Synagogue).
Iowa law states:
A violation of sections 712.3 through 712.8, which is also a hate crime as defined in section
729A.2, shall be classified and punished as an offense one degree higher than the underlying
offense.
So that turns it from Third degree arson, an aggravated misdemeanor to a class d felony. Which makes the max prison sentence 5 years. But because he has been convicted of two prior felonies in court, he gets sentenced as a habitual offender. Anyone being sentenced as a habitual offender gets a max of 15 years regardless of crime (unless, I assume, the crime carries a higher penalty).
1. The maximum sentence for any person convicted of a felony shall be that prescribed
by statute or, if not prescribed by statute, if other than a class “A” felony shall be determined
as follows:
a. A felon sentenced for a first conviction for a violation of section 124.401D, shall be
confined for no more than ninety-nine years.
b. A class “B” felon shall be confined for no more than twenty-five years.
c. An habitual offender shall be confined for no more than fifteen years.
So now it's Arson - 15 years
Harassment 30 days
Reckless use - 1 year
Good catch Llama
But lets not let the fact that the guy is an unrepentant remorseless offender stop people from defending him because of the scary gays.
Or the fact is questioning the law itself that allows such a ridiculously long sentence.
Gotta keep the jails full.