Man linked to Sherwood Park blasts died from gunshot wound, police say

This bulshit police have decided on, that 'privacy' is somehow in the public interest when it suits them, pisses me off. For instance, this guy died of a gunshot wound. But who fired the gun? Was a gun recovered at the scene?

How do I know that justice is being done in my name, if there are still questions?

Yeah, this one bothers me. Two days later and they've decided this guy had no politics, agenda, or skeezy associates? Bullshit. A car full of Tannerite that explodes deserves more than "the privacy of the family" cop-out. That kind of thing should be on the top of every LEO's terrorism list and they should say as much.

Tannerite isn't really a big deal. That's why it's sold without a license in gun stores, and why there is no real damage to the structures from it. I'd be more worried about crazies who figure out gasoline has more explosive potential than it.

And no one worries about gasoline.

Rednecks videoing themselves blowing up an old car full of Tannerite and propane tanks on their back-40 and posting it on YouTube for laughs is one thing. Some nut doing it in a parking garage is a different situation altogether. Tannerite might be grey area or even legal now but that will change damn quickly one day. It can't be that difficult for some extra-cunning little piece of shit to rig a device or deadman switch to a firearm that remotely fires a bullet inside a car or container packed with it that's been left in a public place. As with everything else rotten in this sickening world a terrorist attack using Tannerite is merely a matter of time. A few years back no one ever though you'd have to jump through hoops just to buy farm-grade fertilizer or pressure-cookers either.

I was about to comment on the same thing as Thanos...

Tannerite + full fuel tank + underground (or enclosed...even partially) parkade...makes for a very, very bad day.

Granted, a couple select bags of off the shelf products could be used to better effect...the setup employed did have some serious destructive potential.

But it's the fuel that is the stored chemical energy, not the Tannerite. What could a guy do with a tank of gasoline, fuel pump and fuel injectors that vaporize the fuel in an enclosed space?

Most everything you need to make nitroglycerine can be found under a manure pile and in a medicine cabinet. Add a few other easily obtained chemicals and you have TNT.

Tannerite is weak sauce. It won't bring down a building like a fuel air explosive will.

I want to know who shot the guy; was it self inflicted, was it a cop, or was it someone else?

Since the Law has been so sparse with the details? Conjecture time!!!!

If I had to guess? Young man saw a couple videos of a gallon or two of gas, surrounded with tannerite, go up, and figured gas + tannerite = boom...which it does. Car in this case is nothing more than the vessel that holds the two ingredients.

Put that in something that can contain the pressure, even momentarily...like a parkade, and it can certainly take out enough structure to cause collapse.

As for him being shot...well...since a lot of tannerite is used as markers for shooting practice, maybe the bullet came from his attempt to ignite his package? Or, maybe that is why the Law has been less than forthcoming with the details?

Yes, there are better ways to cause destruction...that doesn't mean we need to lay it all out for everyone. I am just happy he (or whomever made the bomb and planted his dead body in the car....more conjecture!!!) failed in their attempt.

That's a detail that's rather notable because of its absence. I mean if it wasn't a cop or anyone else then it would be self-inflicted so why not say so?

Makes me wonder if the kid who died isn't the perpetrator but perhaps a victim and there's yet another suspect out there.

And we are forced to guess, because of the need for 'privacy'. BULLSHIT! This is an event that affects the public. We don't want to blame the family or intrude, but there are things we need to know!



Exactly! How do we know, if we are not informed!

How does this affect you?

How does not knowing the exact details affect you?

How would knowing those details affect you?

How would giving up rights for knowledge affect all of us?

You, specifically, have taken part in lambasting law enforcement oversteps in the US, but you are demanding those same oversteps here?

Until someone can show me a conviction from a court, or a pile of dead bodies from inadequate law enforcement communication, I don't "need" to know any more than I already know. Yes, I absolutely "want" to know more, but I do not "need" to know more, and I do like the rights we still have.

I want to know if there is someone else out there responsible for this. My Girlfriend lives near Fort Saskatchewan, so I am in the area of this incident all the time.

If no one else is out there, I want to know if a cop is responsible for this shooting, or not. If they are not reporting that, why not? If this guy killed himself, why not say so so we don't have to be concerned about the rest?

Knowing these things is part of the responsibility to protect and serve the public that the public bestows on Government and law enforcement.

And there is no right for someone to commit a crime and have that information kept private. By definition, a crime is committed against the state, and we all are affected by it. Like this article states, there is no such thing as 'a private homicide'.



https://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/ ... e-homicide


And I lambaste both the authorities in the US and here, when they decide they are above the law. And I praise them when I see them going above and beyond in the service of us all.



That is your choice, to assume that others do in your name things that are fair and legal. But I know that the only reason they do, is because other people do not assume that and will keep an eye on things to make sure they are.

I try to be a fair and kind person, and I like to be sure just acts are being done in my name.

Want...not need.

Let me snap my fingers....nope, still takes time for lab tests.

You not knowing, me not knowing, are vastly different things to those that need to know not knowing. As far as I am aware, everyone that needed to know, was informed immediately of what exactly they needed to know. Might explain how those bastardly RCMP got that area civilian free and cordoned off so fast.

We know the name of the homicide victim, and we know the name of the primary suspect. Your own source says that the law has fulfilled their obligations.


I have seen only criticism. Not a single word of praise.



A fair and kind person does not pass judgement in the face of a lack of knowledge. They wait until they have enough data to make a fair decision.

It has been 2 1/2 days since the incident occurred. Give law time to actually do a thorough job before bitching about how they aren't working fast enough. They worked plenty fast, it just wasn't on what fears and conjectures you wanted info on. They were too busy protecting those that were in, at the time, high threat areas.

Irrelvant, it's my right to know.



You should snap your fingers so that the news article could read 'a gun was found at the scene'. That would at least cast doubt that a police officer shot him. But it doesn't rule out the other possibility.



Do we? You assume the victim killed himself. That is not evident by the article.



You haven't looked very hard. I post articles all the time on the good things police do, like helping victims, or buying a guy a pair of shoes because that's what they stole from a store.



And I am content to. But this article contains more questions than answers, whether that is the fault of police or the reporter.



I didn't bitch they weren't fast enough, I think they did not answer the obvious questions that they already have the answer to. If this suspect died by gunshot, then they already have some idea who shot him. Is it so hard to include that? Why was there a second blast, and from where? The article doesn't say.

People still can't get their cars out of the parkade because it is still under CSI investigation, so I understand there are things that we'll hear in the coming days. But what do they know - right now!?!

Suicide by explosion should mean the public gets more information than suicide by gun because the situations are vastly different simply from the explosion making it into a severe public threat. If the police take their time to investigate fully then fine, but they shouldn't immediately blow it off a couple of days later. Privacy for the family has to take a bit of a backseat here, considering the potential for the death and injury of uninvolved citizens if this was a more spectacular than usual suicide.