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Passenger ship that ran aground in Nunavut has

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Passenger ship that ran aground in Nunavut has been refloated, company says


Environmental | 207804 hits | Aug 27 6:57 am | Posted by: DrCaleb
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A passenger ship that ran aground Friday morning in the Far North has been refloated, and all its passengers were safe and being cared for on another ship.

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  1. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:02 pm
    Nice try CBC. That isn't what happened.

    Does anybody remember the "Ship of Fools" expedition to the Antarctic where the Guardian newspaper and others decided ice was no longer a problem in the Antarctic so they went down there to show everybody how you could cruise around like you were in the Bahamas.

    Weeks and hundreds of millions of dollars later they were still rescuing people off the ice. I don't know if they ever were able unlock the ship from the ice.

    This one is like that only in the arctic. Basically it's "Ship of Fools 2."

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/27/ ... ds-rescue/

  2. by avatar CharlesAnthony
    Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:42 pm
    "N_Fiddledog" said
    This one is like that only in the arctic. Basically it's "Ship of Fools 2."
    Why are they fools?

    The only fools I see are the tax-payers who finance their rescue.

  3. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:26 pm
    "CharlesAnthony" said

    The only fools I see are the tax-payers who finance their rescue.


    Hopefully the cruise line gets a fine for messing up the environment. Maybe that will offset the cost of the rescue.

  4. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:55 pm
    "Our regular passenger programming on the ship continued. The chef kept cooking. The passengers kept going to educational presentations."


    So it was a Soviet style propaganda cruise?

    I wonder how they're going to explain away what they grounded on was actually non existent ice. :wink:

  5. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:01 pm
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    "Our regular passenger programming on the ship continued. The chef kept cooking. The passengers kept going to educational presentations."


    So it was a Soviet style propaganda cruise?

    I wonder how they're going to explain away what they grounded on was actually non existent ice. :wink:


    Comrade, Party says is not ice, Party says is hard water :wink:

  6. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:49 pm
    "Freakinoldguy" said

    I wonder how they're going to explain away what they grounded on was actually non existent ice. :wink:


    What lies is Fiddly feeding you now?

    {takes a peek}

    :lol:

    Denial, in full bloom. That's what you get when you let WUWT do the thinking for you. It took 15 seconds to find:

    Enjoy Great Dining? So do we

    The exciting schedule of onshore excursions, zodiac cruises and onboard activities are guaranteed to work up a serious appetite. Although the ship operates in some of the most remote locations in the world, you can expect an exceptional variety of tasty meals, prepared by a team of professional international chefs.

    Breakfasts are usually buffet style. Lunches offer a great choice of light meals - as well as more substantial options for those who are hungry - and each evening there is a hearty three-course meal offering both variety and choice. There’s also an excellent wine list featuring a range of international wines. You can get a cup of tea or coffee at any time of the day or night and we always offer afternoon tea with cakes and biscuits. Guests with dietary restrictions or special meal requirements are also well catered for.


    https://www.oneoceanexpeditions.com/ves ... emik-ioffe

    Yup, obviously a research vessel. ROTFL

    Here's a thought . .

    'Very poorly charted,' says expert

    Michael Byers, a University of British Columbia professor, said he was surprised about the grounding.

    "Insofar as it's a very well-run ship, and they do take precautions — but not surprised, in the sense that Canadian Arctic waters are very poorly charted," said Byers, ?who's the university's Canada research chair in global politics and international law.

    . . .


    Only 10 per cent of the Canadian Arctic is adequately charted, with merely one per cent charted to "modern standards," according to Adam Lajeunesse, the Irving shipbuilding chair of Arctic marine security at St. Francis Xavier University in Nova Scotia.

    "Many of those areas are not charted at all."



    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/in ... -1.4801273


    . . . Perhaps the ship ran aground . . on ground!

  7. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:55 pm
    "DrCaleb" said

    I wonder how they're going to explain away what they grounded on was actually non existent ice. :wink:


    What lies is Fiddly feeding you now?

    {takes a peek}

    :lol:

    Denial, in full bloom. That's what you get when you let WUWT do the thinking for you. It took 15 seconds to find:

    Enjoy Great Dining? So do we

    The exciting schedule of onshore excursions, zodiac cruises and onboard activities are guaranteed to work up a serious appetite. Although the ship operates in some of the most remote locations in the world, you can expect an exceptional variety of tasty meals, prepared by a team of professional international chefs.

    Breakfasts are usually buffet style. Lunches offer a great choice of light meals - as well as more substantial options for those who are hungry - and each evening there is a hearty three-course meal offering both variety and choice. There’s also an excellent wine list featuring a range of international wines. You can get a cup of tea or coffee at any time of the day or night and we always offer afternoon tea with cakes and biscuits. Guests with dietary restrictions or special meal requirements are also well catered for.


    https://www.oneoceanexpeditions.com/ves ... emik-ioffe

    Yup, obviously a research vessel. ROTFL

    Here's a thought . .

    'Very poorly charted,' says expert

    Michael Byers, a University of British Columbia professor, said he was surprised about the grounding.

    "Insofar as it's a very well-run ship, and they do take precautions — but not surprised, in the sense that Canadian Arctic waters are very poorly charted," said Byers, ?who's the university's Canada research chair in global politics and international law.

    . . .


    Only 10 per cent of the Canadian Arctic is adequately charted, with merely one per cent charted to "modern standards," according to Adam Lajeunesse, the Irving shipbuilding chair of Arctic marine security at St. Francis Xavier University in Nova Scotia.

    "Many of those areas are not charted at all."



    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/in ... -1.4801273


    . . . Perhaps the ship ran aground . . on ground!

    Sorry, I didn't realize I had called it a research vessel? Oh wait, I didn't. I called it a Soviet style propaganda cruise. :wink:

    "On Soviet cruise ships cooks, cook, passengers go to education classes"?

    As for running aground. I've been on ships that have and for the record you can run aground on anything that is classified as a hazard to navigation, be it "rocks" or "ice". So claiming that the grounding must mean "ground" is ridiculous. Hell, I even had the pleasure of running aground on a sandbar in Winter Harbour. So, maybe we should have made the CO write that grounding off in the ships log and collision reports as "run a sandbar" so there wouldn't have been any confusion with the Admiralty.

    BTW just for clarifications sake here's the term for running aground:

    Term: run aground (v)
    Definition: To operate a vessel carelessly so that it becomes fouled in the bottom.


    http://www.seatalk.info/cgi-bin/nautica ... ary/db.cgi
    db=db&uid=default&FirstLetter=r&sb=Term&view_records=View+R&nh=7

    And as for the fact that some of these waters are uncharted or course they are but that doesn't explain away stupidity or carelessness. All vessels now carry what is called depth sounder so, when you are working in shallow water close to land you can tell how much water you have below your keel and take appropriate action to prevent things like running up on the "rocks" from happening.

    So, no matter how the company tries to spin it. They fucked up royally and grounded a vessel for no good reason. Unless of course they ran into something that someone claimed wasn't there, like a very large chunk of ice. Something which their depth sounder wouldn't have been able to pick up given that this non existent hazard is usually located on the surface. ROTFL

  8. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:10 pm
    "Freakinoldguy" said

    Sorry, I didn't realize I had called it a research vessel? Oh wait, I didn't. I called it a Soviet style propaganda cruise. :wink:


    You didn't, but I took the 'nonexistant ice' part of your comment to be from Fiddlies rant, which is why I mentioned it. It was his post trying to link global warming denial to this ship running aground that tried to claim these were research vessels, which took me 15 seconds to disprove. QED.

    "Freakinoldguy" said

    "On Soviet cruise ships cooks
    And as for the fact that some of these waters are uncharted or course they are but that doesn't explain away stupidity or carelessness. All vessels now carry what is called depth sounder so, when you are working in shallow water close to land you can tell how much water you have below your keel and take appropriate action to prevent things like this happening.

    So no matter how the company tries to spin it. They fucked up royally and grounded a vessel for no good reason. Unless of course they ran into something that someone claimed wasn't there like a very large piece of ice. Something which their depth sounder wouldn't have been able to pick up given that ice is on the surface. ROTFL


    They definitely do! From an article I read, they have significant hull damage and took on water, while having sonar arrays on both sides of the keel! Someone was asleep at the monitors.

    Good thing their sister ship was close by, as well as a couple ice breakers.

  9. by Thanos
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:35 pm
    So did the ship actually run into rocks, or is this all a hoax by some jerkies who just received their weekly cheques from Soros? :?

  10. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:49 pm
    "DrCaleb" said


    What lies is Fiddly feeding you now?

    {takes a peek}

    :lol:

    Denial, in full bloom. That's what you get when you let WUWT do the thinking for you. It took 15 seconds to find:

    Enjoy Great Dining? So do we

    The exciting schedule of onshore excursions, zodiac cruises and onboard activities are guaranteed to work up a serious appetite. Although the ship operates in some of the most remote locations in the world, you can expect an exceptional variety of tasty meals, prepared by a team of professional international chefs.



    Nice to see you again, Doc. Still all puffed up with BS and self-importance, I see. The last I heard from you, you were blowing about your superior virtue on having me on ignore.
    Whatever...Here you are again then, not as happy with your 'safe space' as you thought you were, it would seem. :wink: Communicating again are we...looking for another slap-down from the facts, I imagine.

    Okay, always willing to please, hang on then...I'll see what I can do. :wink:

  11. by avatar llama66
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:56 pm
    I like my ships like I like my scotch... on the rocks.

  12. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:04 pm
    So as I understand it then the first layer of BS Doc would like me to dig through is the claim this wasn't a global warming propaganda expedition it was just an Arctic pleasure cruise.

    Let's see then...

    This is from Phys.org.

    Scientists, students to make first live, interactive broadcasts from Arctic Ocean's Northwest Passage

    The Arctic Ocean, with its vast icy islands and peninsulas, was once known as terra incognita—the unknown land—the planet's last great un-navigated maritime frontier.

    This summer, a team of scientists and students, conducting research aboard One Ocean Expeditions' vessel Akademik Ioffe, will offer select museums, as well as classrooms and citizen scientists worldwide, an opportunity to explore with them in real time a dramatically changing Arctic Ocean, and to discuss their research in the first-ever live, interactive broadcasts from the fabled Northwest Passage.

    From August 23 to Sept. 13, the University of Rhode Island's Inner Space Center (ISC), with major funding from the U.S. National Science Foundation and additional support from the Heising-Simons Foundation, will conduct the innovative Northwest Passage Project research expedition with a team of natural and social scientists, students, and a professional film crew. This ground-breaking opportunity is also supported by One Ocean Expeditions as a key marine partner, having operated in Arctic waters for over 20 years.




    Aboard the Akademik Ioffe, the team of scientists and 22 students will collect water, ice, and air samples to advance understanding of and document the effect climate change is having on the environment and biodiversity in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago. Credit: One Ocean Expeditions

    There were other notifications from other outlets similar to this one but you get the picture.

    Apparently, they've been romping and cruising up there on summer cruises for 20 years. We're all invited to join them through the miracle of film as they do and natural "science." Basically, watch "climate change" melt the ice.

  13. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:21 pm
    So next DR Puff n Stuff wants to tell us how there's nothing to see here. The expedition's problems had nothing to do with a frozen Arctic. They just made a wrong turn at Albuquerque (so to speak) ran aground on a sand barge, more or less.

    Here's what really happened.

    The Canadian Coast guard service was giving this warning:

    Good morning, Due to heavier than normal ice concentrations in the Canadian arctic waters north of 70 degrees, the Canadian Coast Guard, recommends that pleasure craft do not navigate in the Beaufort Sea, Barrow, Peel Sound, Franklin Strait and Prince Regent. CCG icebreakers cannot safely escort pleasure craft. Operators of pleasure craft considering a northwest passage should also consider the risk of having to winter in a safe haven in the Arctic, or in the case of an emergency, be evacuated from beset vessels. Safety of mariners is our primary concern. REGARDS, NORDREG CANADA 181256UTC\LR


    Now some of us might find that phrase "heavier than normal ice concentrations" odd. Especially if we'd been reading Doc's 3 times weekly CBC Summer Dispatches telling us it was the summer from Hell - melting ice, murdering sockeye salmon if not all flora and fauna throughout the one-time frozen north.

    Anyway...

    The next thing we heard from the Arctic was this:

    Passengers on grounded Arctic cruise ship to be flown back to Yellowknife

  14. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:29 pm
    Oh and BTW, seeing as you're back talking to me again I have to tell you, I really enjoyed your "2018 - Summer From Hell" dispatches.

    But to quote the Starks "Winter is coming..."

    Hope you'll be enjoying mine as much as I enjoyed yours. :wink:

    Hope this winter won't be another one that refuses to end like last year's, on the Wet Coast where I am, cause that sucked.



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