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“Fingerprint” of humanity’s climate impact seen

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“Fingerprint” of humanity’s climate impact seen in the seasons


Environmental | 207921 hits | Jul 20 7:26 am | Posted by: DrCaleb
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Yet another accurate model prediction—seasonal patterns around the world.

Comments

  1. by newz
    Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:02 am
    Until you can provide a control subject for comparison, it's conjecture.

  2. by avatar CharlesAnthony
    Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:40 pm
    It is worse than conjecture.

  3. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:06 pm
    "newz" said
    Until you can provide a control subject for comparison, it's conjecture.


    In any case, did I read that "article" wrong or is somebody predicting the past then asking us to be amazed?

  4. by avatar DrCaleb
    Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:59 pm
    "newz" said
    Until you can provide a control subject for comparison, it's conjecture.


    Climate studies aren't performed 'double blind'. Fallacy of Exclusion.

    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=climate

  5. by avatar raydan
    Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:23 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    Until you can provide a control subject for comparison, it's conjecture.


    Climate studies aren't performed 'double blind'. Fallacy of Exclusion.

    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=climate
    We could use Venus as the control subject, runaway greenhouse effect at its finest.

  6. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:34 pm
    "N_Fiddledog" said
    Until you can provide a control subject for comparison, it's conjecture.


    In any case, did I read that "article" wrong or is somebody predicting the past then asking us to be amazed?

    What's ironic is that I have yet to hear of one of these climate models that accurately predict the known past. :idea:

    By that I mean if you take the data set for the 1930's and enter it into most any climate model it will consistently predict the 1940's and 1950's as being warmer.

    Even though in reality they were significantly cooler.

    That's the thing about these models is their inherent bias. No matter what data you input (including random numbers) the majority of these models will predict a warming trend.

  7. by avatar DrCaleb
    Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:31 pm
    "BartSimpson" said

    What's ironic is that I have yet to hear of one of these climate models that accurately predict the known past. :idea:


    No, what is ironic is the number of times I've shown you that every climate model is tested in this way before it's used to predict the future.

    . Scientists can, however, test their models' accuracy through a process called ‘hindcasting’. By using past data they can see if their models can predict current climate trends. If their model can predict weather that’s already happened, then it can be trusted to make accurate predictions of the future.


    https://www.ceh.ac.uk/our-science/scien ... ate-models

  8. by avatar CharlesAnthony
    Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:51 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    What's ironic is that I have yet to hear of one of these climate models that accurately predict the known past. :idea:
    What is ironic is that there are no bookies making money off of this bullshit.



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