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Canada Revenue Agency falling behind as uncollected taxes owed rise to $44 billion


Political | 207954 hits | Jun 25 10:54 am | Posted by: DrCaleb
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A $352 million collection program launched by the Liberals has not stopped the growth in the tax debt - the amount of taxes Canadians acknowledge owing to Ottawa but have not paid. The tax debt hit a record $44 billion in March and is set to rise to more

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  1. by avatar DrCaleb
    Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:58 pm
    Lay people off to save millions in salary. Lose billions in income.

    Perhaps this will finally extinguish the myth of 'Stephen Harper: Economist".

  2. by avatar BRAH
    Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:02 pm
    The CRA dropped the ball in Fraudcouver.

  3. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:06 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    Lay people off to save millions in salary. Lose billions in income.

    Perhaps this will finally extinguish the myth of 'Stephen Harper: Economist".


    What's any of that have to do with people failing to pay undisputed taxes?

    Sounds to me like you've got a fair chunk of your population that's just not interested in financing your government anymore.

  4. by avatar DrCaleb
    Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:18 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    Lay people off to save millions in salary. Lose billions in income.

    Perhaps this will finally extinguish the myth of 'Stephen Harper: Economist".


    What's any of that have to do with people failing to pay undisputed taxes?

    Sounds to me like you've got a fair chunk of your population that's just not interested in financing your government anymore.

    If you read the article, these are taxes people said they owed, but haven't paid. It's literally the first sentence. They are using the CRA as a low interest loan.

    The CRA doesn't have enough people to chase down the people to pay their back taxes they say they owe, again according to the article, due to Harper cutting the budget to pay people resulting in layoffs.

  5. by avatar Tricks
    Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:51 pm
    If the CRA is anything like Service Canada, it's because they waste time on pointless nonsense instead of actual issues.

  6. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:56 pm
    "Tricks" said
    If the CRA is anything like Service Canada, it's because they waste time on pointless nonsense instead of actual issues.


    I'm seeing the same thing at work myself. We're so inundated with compliance reports that if we actually did them all we'd literally have no time to do our actual jobs.

    The bureaucratic monster is so insatiable that it has now turned upon itself.

    Truly, we are in the last stages of civilization when our governments are so busy with political correctness and paperwork that they don't even have time to collect revenues. :idea:

  7. by avatar Tricks
    Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:21 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    If the CRA is anything like Service Canada, it's because they waste time on pointless nonsense instead of actual issues.


    I'm seeing the same thing at work myself. We're so inundated with compliance reports that if we actually did them all we'd literally have no time to do our actual jobs.

    The bureaucratic monster is so insatiable that it has now turned upon itself.

    Truly, we are in the last stages of civilization when our governments are so busy with political correctness and paperwork that they don't even have time to collect revenues. :idea:
    2 years ago I got laid off a job and went on EI for a couple months while I found another. Basically how it works is you claim how much you've made in a 2 week period, so if you found something part time you're still getting x amount guaranteed. I under claimed how much I made one week by 16 dollars (I think I worked one day for training, which ended early, and I apparently got paid for the full day). I then over claimed how much I made the next week by 32 dollars. (added up hours wrong).

    They sent me a notice in september of last year (over a year after I had come off EI) about it, I contacted them, point out the context, and that in reality they owed me more if anything.

    I just got another letter about it about how I'm going to have to pay them back the 16 dollars. I honestly couldn't give a shit about the 16 dollars, obviously. But it's more the principle of how much time they're going to spend on this and how much money it's going to cost the tax payers to "come after me" over 16 dollars. I figure a low estimate of 20 times that. When in reality, it was a math error between the two period of time, and the result is basically a wash.

    Needless to say i'm going to call and have a chat with them and point out how fucking stupid they are.

  8. by avatar herbie
    Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:24 pm

    They are using the CRA as a low interest loan.

    Oh Jeez, I hope people don't think like that. They tack on these completely arbitrary penalties on top!
    Been in the position myself, cashed in all my RRSPs and the business failed anyway, then for several years after I was either unemployed or minimally employed and couldn't pay.
    This is for assholes like a friend's husband that's on EI part of every year and owes year after year and just pay up those back taxes. Gotta chase those quick, contractors tend to work for different employers every year.

  9. by Sunnyways
    Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:44 pm
    They're very prompt about writing letters to me if the money hasn't been paid.

  10. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:55 pm
    "Tricks" said
    If the CRA is anything like Service Canada, it's because they waste time on pointless nonsense instead of actual issues.


    I'm seeing the same thing at work myself. We're so inundated with compliance reports that if we actually did them all we'd literally have no time to do our actual jobs.

    The bureaucratic monster is so insatiable that it has now turned upon itself.

    Truly, we are in the last stages of civilization when our governments are so busy with political correctness and paperwork that they don't even have time to collect revenues. :idea:
    2 years ago I got laid off a job and went on EI for a couple months while I found another. Basically how it works is you claim how much you've made in a 2 week period, so if you found something part time you're still getting x amount guaranteed. I under claimed how much I made one week by 16 dollars (I think I worked one day for training, which ended early, and I apparently got paid for the full day). I then over claimed how much I made the next week by 32 dollars. (added up hours wrong).

    They sent me a notice in september of last year (over a year after I had come off EI) about it, I contacted them, point out the context, and that in reality they owed me more if anything.

    I just got another letter about it about how I'm going to have to pay them back the 16 dollars. I honestly couldn't give a shit about the 16 dollars, obviously. But it's more the principle of how much time they're going to spend on this and how much money it's going to cost the tax payers to "come after me" over 16 dollars. I figure a low estimate of 20 times that. When in reality, it was a math error between the two period of time, and the result is basically a wash.

    Needless to say i'm going to call and have a chat with them and point out how fucking stupid they are.


    Yeah, spending probably $300-$500 to collect on $32 that isn't even owed is about right for government work. :|

  11. by avatar herbie
    Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:22 pm
    Fuck, I once had a Postal clerk collect 16 cents in duty on software I ordered. God knows the number of agencies that went through...

  12. by avatar BRAH
    Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:50 pm
    CRA scammers are 'exceedingly adept at manipulation,' says Vancouver victim
    You are accused of lying on your tax forms, the police are on their way to arrest you, and it’s likely you will spend some time in jail.

    It sounds like a nightmare.

    This is how the Canada Revenue Agency scammers hook you. They play on your fears and lack of knowledge about filing your taxes until you are terrified to the point that you will pay whatever they want to avoid incarceration and a record.

    Police have issued warnings about the CRA scam, which is done by using Caller ID spoofing software to display the number of the local RCMP detachment on your phone, while fraudsters threaten to have you arrested for tax fraud.


    _________________________

    This shit doesn't help the CRA.

  13. by housewife
    Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:21 am
    They will spend hundreds going after a few bucks but don’t seem to do anything about reported fraud got to just love our system. :twisted:

  14. by avatar herbie
    Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:28 am
    Lady in the seniors home reacted by taking to bed, pulling a blanket over her head and not eating. Nurses called me in cuz she's so frazzled she remembers me as the phone guy (not since 1994!) and I must know everything about phones and what happens on them.
    Had to tell her she's been on a pension for 15 years how the hell could she OWE $186,000 she never even made that much money, thank God she listened and came out of it.
    One of the cashiers at the wife's store simply wouldn't believe anyone and they stopped him trying to buy every damn iTunes card in the store!

    I called the assholes back last time and only told the guy who answered he better get rid of his burner phone quick, the number's been reported. CLICK!!



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