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"I'm hoping that it's kind of like supervised injection sites," he said of the program that could begin as early as next March. "At first it sounded a bit off the wall and now it's pretty well accepted."
Funding to expand access to hydromorphone would first be used to distribute pills through supportive housing units that also dispense methadone and suboxone as well as through a nurse at supervised injection sites before they are sold through vending machines, Tyndall said.
"People could pick these drugs up at supervised injection sites but there's no reason you couldn't use vending machine technology to do that. So people would show up, have their card, click it in and get a couple of pills."
Hydromorphone pills dissolve well in water and Tyndall said he expects most people will grind them up and inject them.
A small part of the funding will come from a three year, $1 million Health Canada grant that includes patients in Alberta, Tyndall said, adding the machines could also be placed in other areas where drug use is prevalent, as well as near health clinics in remote communities.
"We don't have really anything to offer people who are dying around the province in smaller communities, where sometimes they don't even have a doctor who can prescribe methadone and certainly will never have a supervised injection site," Tyndall said.
"You'd have to ensure there's some security system because we don't want people kicking these things in and stealing all the pills, and we don't want situations where people are taking out big quantities and selling them on the street."
Tyndall said while theft is a major concern of any opioid distribution system, anyone buying stolen hydromorphone pills would at least be getting safe drugs instead of those that could be laced with the powerful opioid fentanyl, which has been linked to hundreds of deaths across Canada.
Safeguards would also include supplying two or three pills, up to three times a day, to prevent users from being targeted by criminals, Tyndall said.
"We've done some focus groups and most people feel they'd be quite happy with two Dilaudids, eight milligrams, three times a day," he said.
However, people who are assessed as doing well could eventually obtain a two- or three-day supply of pills, much like take-home methadone, Tyndall added.
High-dose injectable hydromorphone is currently provided to chronic substance users at a Vancouver clinic called Crosstown, the only such facility that also dispenses diacetylmorphine, or medical-grade heroin to patients who have repeatedly failed to kick an addiction to illicit drugs after multiple drug substitution programs.
"This is not an addiction medicine response," Tyndall said, adding new approaches need to have an impact on the overdose epidemic. "We need to make this is pubic health thing, much like vaccine programs."
The B.C. Coroners Service has reported that 1,208 people fatally overdosed in British Columbia between January and October this year. It said fentanyl was detected in 999 of the confirmed and suspected deaths so far in 2017, an increase of 136 per cent from the same period last year.
Ontario's Health Ministry said the province has about half a dozen remote locations where prescription drugs are available through dispensing machines. Patients consult in real time with an off-site pharmacist using two-way video monitor in the machine.
Allan Malek, chief pharmacy officer of the Ontario Pharmacists Association, said Tyndall has floated an innovative idea during a national overdose crisis but it would have to be adequately monitored.
"In terms of what's happening in B.C. and other parts of the country, these are discussions that have to be had. People are dying. Something has to be done."
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here is a link showing 251 deaths in ontario from dilaudid. 234 in west virginia. that was over 11 years ago.
calling dilaudid safe is a fucking joke. attempting to make yourselves morally superior to the u.s. by dispensing highly addictive poison for free in a vending machine is a fucking joke. it does not make you morally superior, it makes you an enabler. why don't you put cash in vending machines for gambling addicts or alcohol in vending machines for alcoholics while you are at it? free food for food addicts? free prostitutes for sex addicts?
Then again you're at least arguing "enabling" as a point, where if this had been suggested there there's be four pages of "because its against the law" arguments as replies.
While it may seem like enabling they're not planned to dispense fatal doses, multiple doses, or to any Joe Blow with a debit card.
Its a suggestion, their reality is right up there with a new Ethiopian Emperor: Haile Unlikely.
but then again, it IS Vancouver....
heaven forbid that you should take some time off from your anti alberta oil pipeline protests to actually help some members of your own province. keep the free dope coming. its a lot cheaper than putting someone in rehab for a few months isn't it? probably getting kickbacks from big pharm as well. hopefully they will od and die. problem solved, right? keep em sedated!!! we don't want you to put yourself out there actually doing some good in your community. we know you have young people to chase off of your lawn, and angry rants to post. keep false believing in the total security of vending machines while you are at it. its not like millions of them get broken into every year. b.c. home of all the easy answers.
I don't agree with vending machines, but I grew up in East Van/Burnaby and took the old lady to Gastown & Chinatown about 7 years back, she'd never been there. I hadn't in 25 years either, and it was beyond disgusting. Filthy, needles everywhere - something had to be done and leaving dead bodies for the tourists to step over doesn't make it better.
I have a kid who was a junkie. Never descended to that level he got free methadon and could work the odd job and not steal. So I support the supervised injection sites and a medical 4 pillars approach to the problem. The fentanyl bullshit has even killed several in this part of the boonies so it's obvious that just like with cannabis, LAW has had generations to address the drug problem and has totally failed.
And lose this assumption the ROC has some obligation to sell Alberta's resources. You won't sell many cars by repeatedly telling people what shitheads they are for NOT buying yours.