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Title: Transport Canada OKs oil tanker traffic in Kitimat
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: Strutz
Date: 2012-02-23 14:14:09
Canadian

[sargentstadanko]

I"m all for shipping oil to Asia instead of the U.S. but for crying out loud put the terminal in Prince Rupert! Not 50 miles(or whatever it is) INLAND!!

[Gunnair]

Fuck you Transport Canada.

[Caelon]

I would like to see the economic arguement for choosing Kitimat over Prince Rupert. There has to be something in the pipeline route, port facilities, etc that is pushing Kitimat as the the preferred shipping point.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Caelon Caelon:

I would like to see the economic arguement for choosing Kitimat over Prince Rupert. There has to be something in the pipeline route, port facilities, etc that is pushing Kitimat as the the preferred shipping point.

I would hope that the reason is sensible otherwise,

Gunnair Gunnair:

Fuck you Transport Canada.

what he said.

[Freakinoldguy]

This definately gives the impression that any hearings or proposed meetings with stakeholders over the Enbridge Pipeline are just window dressing for a decision that's already been made.

I wonder what this does to the Kinder Morgan plan to double the capacity of their Trans Mountain pipeline to Vancouver and eliminate the need for the Enbridge one?

[dino_bobba_renno]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

I wonder what this does to the Kinder Morgan plan to double the capacity of their Trans Mountain pipeline to Vancouver and eliminate the need for the Enbridge one?

Nope, they're competing lines. Kinder is planning on going to construction on 2 of the remaining 3 phases of the TMX next year or the year after. As for the final phase I would imagine it will happen right after.

[dino_bobba_renno]

Caelon Caelon:

I would like to see the economic arguement for choosing Kitimat over Prince Rupert. There has to be something in the pipeline route, port facilities, etc that is pushing Kitimat as the the preferred shipping point.

I believe it's because they want to utilize Rupert of LNG and they probably feel they're will be too much traffic if they put both the LNG and oil terminals there.

[andyt]

Caelon Caelon:

I would like to see the economic arguement for choosing Kitimat over Prince Rupert. There has to be something in the pipeline route, port facilities, etc that is pushing Kitimat as the the preferred shipping point.

It's way longer and thru much tougher terrain to PR. So it would cost Enbridge more, while offloading more risk onto the province because of greater likelihood of a spill in Kitimat.

BTW, Enbridge's business case is based on the pipeline increasing oil costs by a bout $3/year for 30 years - ie a $90/barrel increase, so almost a doubling at current prices. Because the oil will be shipped to high demand Asia, it will raise prices in North America too.

[herbie]

It's $93 million more to go to Rupert instead according to their own figures.
The fix is in. Who does Transport Canada work for? Now we now.
This goes against everything BC'ers have said in the past.

Yeah it will increase prices here. And not deliver ONE refinery job. A handful of jobs in Kitimat and the risk borne by all BC.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Refinery jobs. That's what Canada needs. Seems kinda stupid to export "cheap" oil and import far more expensive gasoline. Not that I believe a refining industry in Canada would lower our gas prices by one tenth of a cent, but at least some of that gasoline money would be staying here.