[Newsbot]

Title: Libya militias 'out of control'
Category: World
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2012-02-15 23:44:22

[martin14]

no surprises here.


But just watch all the people who were screaming,

bad Whacky, bad Whacky,

who will not touch this story now.

[Freakinoldguy]

Maybe the EU should deploy troops to protect the civilians this time since that and not oil is why they bombed the living shit out of Libya in the first place.

You're right none of the current crop of Noam Chomsky's will raise a peep about human rights since it would be embarassing to them to say the least.

[sandorski]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Maybe the EU should deploy troops to protect the civilians this time since that and not oil is why they bombed the living shit out of Libya in the first place.

You're right none of the current crop of Noam Chomsky's will raise a peep about human rights since it would be embarassing to them to say the least.

Sure, and you're siding with a Dictator. Congrats.

As the US found out in Iraq, it takes time to reorganize things. Certain unnamed persons opposed the overthrow from the start and apparently many still do.

[BartSimpson]

sandorski sandorski:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Maybe the EU should deploy troops to protect the civilians this time since that and not oil is why they bombed the living shit out of Libya in the first place.

You're right none of the current crop of Noam Chomsky's will raise a peep about human rights since it would be embarassing to them to say the least.

Sure, and you're siding with a Dictator. Congrats.

As the US found out in Iraq, it takes time to reorganize things. Certain unnamed persons opposed the overthrow from the start and apparently many still do.

Dude, you just substantiated Frekinoldguy's point.

In an ideal post you'd counter FOG by denouncing the human rights record of the current Libya regime but instead you've resorted to whataboutery which equates you to...wow...George Bush and the neo-cons if you think about it.

I say that not as an insult but because I guess I expected you to make a better argument is all.

On the matter of Libya I was pretty neutral about it at the time and I was opposed to NATO getting involved. In the mater of Syria I am reluctantly siding with Russia and China in saying to leave Assad alone and in place because as bad as he may be, recent history shows that what will come after Assad will be far worse.

[sandorski]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Maybe the EU should deploy troops to protect the civilians this time since that and not oil is why they bombed the living shit out of Libya in the first place.

You're right none of the current crop of Noam Chomsky's will raise a peep about human rights since it would be embarassing to them to say the least.

Sure, and you're siding with a Dictator. Congrats.

As the US found out in Iraq, it takes time to reorganize things. Certain unnamed persons opposed the overthrow from the start and apparently many still do.

Dude, you just substantiated Frekinoldguy's point.

In an ideal post you'd counter FOG by denouncing the human rights record of the current Libya regime but instead you've resorted to whataboutery which equates you to...wow...George Bush and the neo-cons if you think about it.

I say that not as an insult but because I guess I expected you to make a better argument is all.

On the matter of Libya I was pretty neutral about it at the time and I was opposed to NATO getting involved. In the mater of Syria I am reluctantly siding with Russia and China in saying to leave Assad alone and in place because as bad as he may be, recent history shows that what will come after Assad will be far worse.

I don't think it's an ideal situation by a long shot, but to oppose these Revolutions against Dictators(especially ones that we have never liked, albeit some we did) is ridiculous. Ya, they have a mess there, but give them time to sort it out before declaring the whole thing a failure.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

The west should just stay the hell out of everybody's civil wars/revolutions. Unless of course it spills beyond the country's borders.

[xerxes]

I think it's worth pointing out that the new Libya is only about 6 months old with the former leader getting his just rewards only 4 months. To expect that there would be a properly functioning government in place after 4 decades of rule by lunatic, is foolish at best.

[BartSimpson]

sandorski sandorski:

I don't think it's an ideal situation by a long shot, but to oppose these Revolutions against Dictators(especially ones that we have never liked, albeit some we did) is ridiculous. Ya, they have a mess there, but give them time to sort it out before declaring the whole thing a failure.

I'm not opposing the revolutions, but I sure as hell don't like that we've been instigating them and then aiding and abetting the revolutionaries who, so far, are consistently turning out to be people who hate us and would like to kill us.

[Freakinoldguy]

sandorski sandorski:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Maybe the EU should deploy troops to protect the civilians this time since that and not oil is why they bombed the living shit out of Libya in the first place.

You're right none of the current crop of Noam Chomsky's will raise a peep about human rights since it would be embarassing to them to say the least.

Sure, and you're siding with a Dictator. Congrats.

As the US found out in Iraq, it takes time to reorganize things. Certain unnamed persons opposed the overthrow from the start and apparently many still do.

So whats the difference between Saddam and Khadafi? This isn't a popularity contest like some seem to think

If it was wrong for Bush to go into Iraq then it's just as fucking wrong for Obama, the EU and even us, to go into Libya and as a matter of fact Libya hadn't attacked a neighbor or refused to work with the UN investigators.

So if I side with dictators why aren't you pushing for Canada and the US to attack Syria, whose dictator is just as bad if not worse than the two I mentioned?

[sandorski]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

I don't think it's an ideal situation by a long shot, but to oppose these Revolutions against Dictators(especially ones that we have never liked, albeit some we did) is ridiculous. Ya, they have a mess there, but give them time to sort it out before declaring the whole thing a failure.

I'm not opposing the revolutions, but I sure as hell don't like that we've been instigating them and then aiding and abetting the revolutionaries who, so far, are consistently turning out to be people who hate us and would like to kill us.

Since you have long assumed they Hate you, of course you don't like them for that. Do you think propping up their Dictators makes them like you?

[sandorski]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

sandorski sandorski:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Maybe the EU should deploy troops to protect the civilians this time since that and not oil is why they bombed the living shit out of Libya in the first place.

You're right none of the current crop of Noam Chomsky's will raise a peep about human rights since it would be embarassing to them to say the least.

Sure, and you're siding with a Dictator. Congrats.

As the US found out in Iraq, it takes time to reorganize things. Certain unnamed persons opposed the overthrow from the start and apparently many still do.

So whats the difference between Saddam and Khadafi? This isn't a popularity contest like some seem to think

If it was wrong for Bush to go into Iraq then it's just as fucking wrong for Obama, the EU and even us, to go into Libya and as a matter of fact Libya hadn't attacked a neighbor or refused to work with the UN investigators.

So if I side with dictators why aren't you pushing for Canada and the US to attack Syria, whose dictator is just as bad if not worse than the two I mentioned?

You can't tell the difference between Iraq and Libya? Really?

[Freakinoldguy]

sandorski sandorski:

You can't tell the difference between Iraq and Libya? Really?

I see your point but humour me and tell me the difference between Syria and Libya and why the EU, US and Canada haven't intervened?

[BartSimpson]

sandorski sandorski:

Since you have long assumed they Hate you, of course you don't like them for that.

Then I guess I failed to appreciate their idea of sarcastic humor and mistook it for a hatred of the West. My bad, I guess.

$1:

Do you think propping up their Dictators makes them like you?

No, I think their religion makes them hate us no matter who is in charge. At least a dictator keeps the more radical elements on a leash and, paradoxically, dictators in that part of the world have been a force for relative peace.

And do keep in mind that in the case of Syria my government is supporting the rebels and I'm siding with your nominal fellow travelers in Russia and China for a change.

[Freakinoldguy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

Since you have long assumed they Hate you, of course you don't like them for that.

Then I guess I failed to appreciate their idea of sarcastic humor and mistook it for a hatred of the West. My bad, I guess.

$1:

Do you think propping up their Dictators makes them like you?

No, I think their religion makes them hate us no matter who is in charge. At least a dictator keeps the more radical elements on a leash and, paradoxically, dictators in that part of the world have been a force for relative peace.

And do keep in mind that in the case of Syria my government is supporting the rebels and I'm siding with your nominal fellow travelers in Russia and China for a change.

Shssssssh you can't be saying things like that. The official party line is still George Bush = Ghengis Khan, Barrack Obama = Sister Theresa.