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Title: Wheat board's future sparks heated Commons debate
Category: Political
Posted By: Robair
Date: 2011-09-21 09:29:43
Canadian

[Curtman]

Pat Martin Pat Martin:

Mr. Speaker, our American neighbours certainly see the benefit in the
Canadian Wheat Board to Canadian farmers, because 13 times they have gone to
the WTO and trade tribunals to complain that it is an unfair competitive
advantage.

Now our Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food and Minister for the Canadian
Wheat Board will do the Americans' dirty work for them.

My question is simple: what side is the minister on? Why is he standing up
for the American agrifood giants and not standing up for Canadian grain
producers, who benefit from the Canadian Wheat Board?

[Robair]

I don't know where the motivation for ending the monopoly comes from completely. I hope it's not just for beef producers (see my signature). But I KNOW it's not for farmers that use the board.

Time and again harper will stand up and say it's for farmer's freedom, and some farmers even buy into that. But it's a load of shit. Viterra, Cargill, the railways, are all going to be claiming a bigger chunk of the pie, while the farmer's share will shrink.

[bootlegga]

Yeah, Viterra and Cargill are just licking their chops, dying to get in on the action. And once they do, ADM will swoop in and buy one or both up and we'll lose control of another national resource.

[Macguyver]

Robair Robair:

I don't know where the motivation for ending the monopoly comes from completely. I hope it's not just for beef producers (see my signature). But I KNOW it's not for farmers that use the board.

Time and again harper will stand up and say it's for farmer's freedom, and some farmers even buy into that. But it's a load of shit. Viterra, Cargill, the railways, are all going to be claiming a bigger chunk of the pie, while the farmer's share will shrink.

Those farmers voted for the PC party, as they do every election.

They made their bed, let them sleep in it. Move on.

[Robair]

Macguyver Macguyver:

Those farmers voted for the PC party, as they do every election.

They made their bed, let them sleep in it. Move on.

Really.

I could introduce you to quite a few who did not.

The farmers elect the board members.

Canada elects the federal government.

Farmers keep electing board members who support single desk and not due to a lack of options.

[Macguyver]

Really?



And the spots where you see grey in Sask you can fill them in blue too except Ralph's riding where he won by 800 votes - Regina Wascana (Urban).

So let me know who's voting for the Conservatives if the farmers are not.

My take is that the christian church going farm folk vote conservative because they have always done so.

So fuck em, the votes don't lie. Don't vote in a pro-buainess government and expect that your little monolopy will survive when there are Conservative vultures looking for a quick score.

If you don't like it, let your friends know that we know that SOMEONE must have voted for them since most of the Prairie cons won by 50% or more, note the exceptions near the urban centers.

Methinks that some of your farmer friends are fibbing to you.

[Robair]

Macguyver Macguyver:

Methinks that some of your farmer friends are fibbing to you.

That would be farmer family. And they certainly are not.

So rural vote = grain farmers?

How about beef producers (would love to see the wheat board gone), agri business or just bankers butchers and oil/gas workers?

You want to see a grain producer vote, look at any of the wheat board elections.

[raydan]

Why couldn't the wheat farmers create their own private wheat board?

In Québec, the maple sugar and honey producers created their own Coop where membership is volontary.

$1:

The Maple Syrup and Honey Producers Cooperative is committed to a relationship of equals with its members and customers. It is dedicated to pursuing excellence in producing, processing, and promoting pure products of superior quality that it markets to consumers worldwide. Its skilled team, dedication to innovation, and respect for the environment are the backbone of everythig it does.

[DrCaleb]

Macguyver Macguyver:

Really?

If you don't like it, let your friends know that we know that SOMEONE must have voted for them since most of the Prairie cons won by 50% or more, note the exceptions near the urban centers.

Methinks that some of your farmer friends are fibbing to you.

Take a look at the population distributions in a rural riding, such as Peace River.



What influence is the city of cities [Peace River, population ~10,000) and Grand Prarie, Pop ~47,000) going to have on surrounding Farmers (population ~12,000).

If every Rural farmer voted NDP, it would make no difference if only 30% of the cities voted Conservative. (roughly) I'll be that is true of most Rural farming ridings.

[Macguyver]

Ok ok I give. Poor grain farmers.

Damn Conservatives.

[Robair]

raydan raydan:

Why couldn't the wheat farmers create their own private wheat board?

The wheat board is toast. It has no assets. The grain terminals, shipping ports etc that it uses to move wheat are all owned by the private companies it would have to compete against.

As soon as those companies are given the OK to buy from the farmers, any wheat board or variation of, is going to be squeezed out in short order.

The profit that the board used to return to farmers will now be sent to share holders and CEO's of these private companies.