[Newsbot]

Title: All Canadian submarines now out of commission
Category: Military
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2011-09-05 16:32:11
Canadian

[QBall]

Oi vey! While I admire perseverence and dedication to your fleet it's time to sell these things for scrap and try again.

[DrCaleb]

Well done! Perfect score!

Drug runners now have more working subs than we do.

[DanSC]

Zee Germans will be most pleased.

[BRAH]

West Edmonton Mall has a few subs the Navy could borrow..

[jeff744]

And this is why Canada needs to just order new ones instead and just contribute to development. Every time we buy used we get screwed.

[Robair]

So... why didn't we keep this under wraps?

[GreenTiger]

If Canada were at war against anybody that navy would want to (among other things) neutralize the Canadian submarine force.

Here Canada isn't fighting anybody and the submarine force has been neutralized, not good and far from the situation in WW II.

[saturn_656]

No one can say with a straight face that this was a good deal.

We've paid just shy of a billion dollars for this family of four and have had nothing but problems.

Cut our losses, and order some seaworthy subs. Send the shit cans to the breakers where they belong.

[Gunnair]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

No one can say with a straight face that this was a good deal.

We've paid just shy of a billion dollars for this family of four and have had nothing but problems.

Cut our losses, and order some seaworthy subs. Send the shit cans to the breakers where they belong.

Can't afford it. Capital acquisition projects are already a mess with frigates at mid life and receiving a mid life refit (the only project making progress) The JSS and AOPS are both on paper only, there is no replacement yet for the Tribals, and the MCDVs will receive no mid life.

Ready Aye Ready.

[bootlegga]

Gunnair Gunnair:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

No one can say with a straight face that this was a good deal.

We've paid just shy of a billion dollars for this family of four and have had nothing but problems.

Cut our losses, and order some seaworthy subs. Send the shit cans to the breakers where they belong.

Can't afford it. Capital acquisition projects are already a mess with frigates at mid life and receiving a mid life refit (the only project making progress) The JSS and AOPS are both on paper only, there is no replacement yet for the Tribals, and the MCDVs will receive no mid life.

Ready Aye Ready.

Well, it's kinda like Iraq 2003. Had the original cost estimates held up, it would have been a steal of a deal. However, hindsight is always 20-20 and they've cost us almost as much as new subs would have cost (assuming we bought something off the shelf like U212s and not built our own like the Aussies.

Still as Gunnair notes, there are other far more pressing issues than subs right now. New subs are at least a decade away, if not longer.

[ShepherdsDog]

Is the Canadian government now approaching Naval museums in the hopes of procuring new replacements for these? Right now some bureaurat(sic) is sitting in Ottawa pondering the purchase price, and how much it would cost to refit the Hunley.

[saturn_656]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Can't afford it. Capital acquisition projects are already a mess with frigates at mid life and receiving a mid life refit (the only project making progress) The JSS and AOPS are both on paper only, there is no replacement yet for the Tribals, and the MCDVs will receive no mid life.

Ready Aye Ready.

Then it's time for the Conservative government to walk their talk and start laying down serious coin, otherwise may as well as throw in the towel and give up on having any kind of real navy and go to a basic coastal defence force only.

The situation as it stands now, is downright embarrassing.

[Gunnair]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Can't afford it. Capital acquisition projects are already a mess with frigates at mid life and receiving a mid life refit (the only project making progress) The JSS and AOPS are both on paper only, there is no replacement yet for the Tribals, and the MCDVs will receive no mid life.

Ready Aye Ready.

Then it's time for the Conservative government to walk their talk and start laying down serious coin, otherwise may as well as throw in the towel and give up on having any kind of real navy and go to a basic coastal defence force only.

The situation as it stands now, is downright embarrassing.

Yeah, because there's both the national and political will for that.

[saturn_656]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Yeah, because there's both the national and political will for that.

For going to a basic coastal defence force? Sure looks that way.