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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:02 pm
 


Title: NDP support surges in wake of Layton's death: poll
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Date: 2011-08-31 10:41:32
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:02 pm
 


Unfortunately for the NDP, I doubt the "Jack effect" will carry them in the next election.





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saturn_656 saturn_656:
Unfortunately for the NDP, I doubt the "Jack effect" will carry them in the next election.


And this opinion is based on your gut feeling or some actual facts? Just wondering.


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Macguyver Macguyver:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Unfortunately for the NDP, I doubt the "Jack effect" will carry them in the next election.


And this opinion is based on your gut feeling or some actual facts? Just wondering.


My gut feeling is that Jack dying now will not carry the NDP and their new leader in the next election in 2015. Yes.

Disagree?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:32 pm
 


Macguyver Macguyver:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Unfortunately for the NDP, I doubt the "Jack effect" will carry them in the next election.


And this opinion is based on your gut feeling or some actual facts? Just wondering.

You honestly think the public is going to be more likely to vote NDP in 2015 because their former leader died 4 years prior? Are you high?





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saturn_656 saturn_656:
Disagree?


I agree that the NDP cannot tread on Jack's demise and expect people will vote for them out of sympathy.

As a former spin doctor myself I'd milk every last drop of publicity out of this, use ever moment to keep Jack's name alive, spread the message that the NDP works for the people, not the corporations and not the rich, get our volunteers going door to door with shirts with smiling Jack Layton - tweeking the policies and polling every day until the next election is done.

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The NDP have a mountian to climb. Jack helped them get part way up. He left a rope behind when he died. The hard part is to take that rope and climb. The easy way would be to take that rope and head back down (or hang themselves).

There are miles and miles to climb.





PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:44 pm
 


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:50 pm
 


Macguyver Macguyver:
As a former spin doctor myself I'd milk every last drop of publicity out of this, use ever moment to keep Jack's name alive, spread the message that the NDP works for the people, not the corporations and not the rich, get our volunteers going door to door with shirts with smiling Jack Layton - tweeking the policies and polling every day until the next election is done.

Plaster the streets with :

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The NDP have a mountian to climb. Jack helped them get part way up. He left a rope behind when he died. The hard part is to take that rope and climb. The easy way would be to take that rope and head back down (or hang themselves).

There are miles and miles to climb.


Um...milking your late leader for as many political points as possible will backfire. Horribly. It's one thing saying something like. "My mentor/inspiration Jack Layton once said blah blah blah blah, and I believe in his vision" but it's nothing to STILL plaster his face on posters, four years after his death. They might as well just bring Layton's corpse out and put it on tour, for the amount of taste it has.





PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:58 pm
 


$1:
support for Layton's NDP at 33 per cent -- tied with the ruling Conservatives
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The Tories are down almost seven points while the Liberals are up two.


Canada is having buyers remorse. Snake Oil Steve won't be around next election.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:02 pm
 


Macguyver Macguyver:
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Yes. This won't make the NDP look like the uncreative party of Secret Americans at all.


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I suspect that some of this will stick if only because it has started many thinking about the NDP favourably who had, until now, bought the Conservative and Liberal lines that the vote would be wasted. And that Socialism was dangerous and destructive.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:05 pm
 


eureka eureka:
I suspect that some of this will stick if only because it has started many thinking about the NDP favourably who had, until now, bought the Conservative and Liberal lines that the vote would be wasted. And that Socialism was dangerous and destructive.


Listen, as much as the NDP made great strides, they made them in the province that is probably more socialist than the rest of Canada; Quebec. Unless, somehow, the NDP can achieve a miracle by making their federal platform not sound batshit stupid like the provincial NDP platform for current Ontario election, it'll be quite difficult


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Macguyver Macguyver:
Tricks Tricks:
Are you high?


Not yet, but I will be soon!
Thanks for asking. I'm a socialist and prone to sharing, so pop by if you are in the mood.

Hopeful future police officer means no drugs for Tricks.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:10 pm
 


Tricks Tricks:
Macguyver Macguyver:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Unfortunately for the NDP, I doubt the "Jack effect" will carry them in the next election.


And this opinion is based on your gut feeling or some actual facts? Just wondering.

You honestly think the public is going to be more likely to vote NDP in 2015 because their former leader died 4 years prior? Are you high?

I'm high and I'm not buyin' it :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:12 pm
 


Tricks Tricks:
Macguyver Macguyver:
Tricks Tricks:
Are you high?


Not yet, but I will be soon!
Thanks for asking. I'm a socialist and prone to sharing, so pop by if you are in the mood.

Hopeful future police officer means no drugs for Tricks.



Go bust him, Dan-o !!!


:lol: :lol:


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