[Newsbot]

Title: Norway suspect 'admits attacks'
Category: World
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2011-07-24 01:37:23

[andyt]

Man accused in Norway massacre wanted revolution, crusade against Europe's Muslims, 'traitors' http://ca.news.yahoo.com/norway-police-arrived-90-minutes-gunman-fired-youth-205625942.html

[Proculation]

Some people in Norway demand the reestablisment of the death penalty. The maximum sentence in Norway is 21 years. He could be out at 53.

[Proculation]

From Wiki: "Currently, Norway has the lowest homicide rate in the world."

I guess they will drop a few ranks with that event alone...

[Brenda]

Proculation Proculation:

Some people in Norway demand the reestablisment of the death penalty. The maximum sentence in Norway is 21 years. He could be out at 53.

Not really:
http://translate.google.com/translate?j ... /Forvaring

[Hyack]

$1:

Offenders that a court deemed sane, can be sentenced to custody if there is great danger that the offender might repeat the crime or considered a danger to society.

The only problem with that Brenda is how can anybody that commits as great an atrocity as that ever be considered sane.

[ShepherdsDog]

seems he was looking to start a little Helter Skelter. As for his sanity...I honestly think he was sane, sane like those who orchestrated and took part in the Innquisition, Munich Massacre, the Holocaust, the Red Purges, the Killing Fields, Rwanda and so forth. Sane, but evil.....and the fact that sane people can commit these sort of atrocities makes them that much scarier.

[Brenda]

Hyack Hyack:

$1:

Offenders that a court deemed sane, can be sentenced to custody if there is great danger that the offender might repeat the crime or considered a danger to society.

The only problem with that Brenda is how can anybody that commits as great an atrocity as that ever be considered sane.

Which means he would be declared mentally insane, which would bring him to a mental health institution especially for the criminals, for life.

In The Netherlands, and I am pretty sure in a lot of European countries, you FIRST go to jail, and THEN to a mental health institution, if the judge orders so.

[andyt]

Hyack Hyack:

$1:

Offenders that a court deemed sane, can be sentenced to custody if there is great danger that the offender might repeat the crime or considered a danger to society.

The only problem with that Brenda is how can anybody that commits as great an atrocity as that ever be considered sane.

I didn't read where somebody declared insane doesn't get a lengthy lock up, tho they may be as stupid as we are in that. But under Canadian law, as far as we know now, he would be very unlikely to be found not guilty because of a mental disorder. Tho after that case with the doc in Quebec, all bets are off.

[Proculation]

Brenda Brenda:

Proculation Proculation:

Some people in Norway demand the reestablisment of the death penalty. The maximum sentence in Norway is 21 years. He could be out at 53.

Not really:
http://translate.google.com/translate?j ... /Forvaring

Glad to hear what I've read is wrong !

[Proculation]

andyt andyt:

Hyack Hyack:

$1:

Offenders that a court deemed sane, can be sentenced to custody if there is great danger that the offender might repeat the crime or considered a danger to society.

The only problem with that Brenda is how can anybody that commits as great an atrocity as that ever be considered sane.

I didn't read where somebody declared insane doesn't get a lengthy lock up, tho they may be as stupid as we are in that. But under Canadian law, as far as we know now, he would be very unlikely to be found not guilty because of a mental disorder. Tho after that case with the doc in Quebec, all bets are off.

Someone in my family is a judge of the Court of Quebec. I saw him last weekend. We talked about that doctor case and his "flash" insanity for a moment. He said that if he had been the judge, he would not have proposed the insanity outcome to the jury. He is very cynic sometimes and what he would say is "maybe the Norwegian had a 'flash' insanity for 9 years!".

[andyt]

It's the defense that would put forth the insanity argument. I'm not sure the judge could stop it.

[Brenda]

Proculation Proculation:

Brenda Brenda:

Proculation Proculation:

Some people in Norway demand the reestablisment of the death penalty. The maximum sentence in Norway is 21 years. He could be out at 53.

Not really:
http://translate.google.com/translate?j ... /Forvaring

Glad to hear what I've read is wrong !

Me too.
I actually hope that the max is 21 years PER MURDER, which would make him serve 93x21 years. As far as I am concerned, in the worst place they can find, with the worst criminals who do not give a fuck about themselves anymore, because they are locked up for life anyway, but hate hate hate hate kid-killers.

[andyt]

Suspect in Norway attacks wanted Muslims out of Europe; killing was 'marketing' for manifesto http://ca.news.yahoo.com/norway-police-arrived-90-minutes-gunman-fired-youth-205625942.html

[Proculation]

andyt andyt:

It's the defense that would put forth the insanity argument. I'm not sure the judge could stop it.

From what he said, it's the judge who decides the possible sentences since they are elements of Law.