[Newsbot]

Title: B.C. lumber exports to China soar - surpass U.S. for first time
Category: Business
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2011-07-18 13:46:32
Canadian

[sandorski]

Good news.

[Canadian_Mind]

So ae we sending refined product, or raw logs?

[DrCaleb]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

So ae we sending refined product, or raw logs?

It doesn't say, but the artcle talks about rail cars, containters and family owned mills. Three things that raw logs don't need.

[bootlegga]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

So ae we sending refined product, or raw logs?

If it's anything like our trade with the US, it's probably raw materials, not value-added lumber.

[Praxius]

It's about time we start taking our eggs out of the one basket.

I'm not saying that trading with the US is a bad thing, but having the majority of all our trade going to one country is risky. When that country has economic issues, or for whatever reason, reduces trade, then the impact is far greater than compared to trading with multiple countries.

[BartSimpson]

sandorski sandorski:

Good news.

No, you're shipping raw lumber to China and they're shipping finished products back.

That makes you an economic vassal state to China...just like we are.

[Canadian_Mind]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

Good news.

No, you're shipping raw lumber to China and they're shipping finished products back.

That makes you an economic vassal state to China...just like we are.

I like the point about family owned mills and shipping containers.

[RUEZ]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

So ae we sending refined product, or raw logs?

The title says lumber exports. Raw logs aren't lumber.

[Mowich]

This is good news for Canada especially as we watch our southern neighbor dangle on the economic precipice. Hope Baird comes home with even more good news on the export front.

[Lemmy]

This is definitely NOT good news. Dealing with China, in any fashion, is not good. China is violating every international trade law you can imagine. They're devaluing their own currency essentially allowing their products to be dumped on world markets. Canada dumps a little McCain frozen pizza on the US market and we get nailed with a fine and a counterveiling duty. China dumps every goddamn thing they export by keeping their currency artificially low and the WTO turns the other cheek. Canada (and the rest of the world) ought to stand up to the Chinese and tell them "Fuck you. Until you quit pegging your currency, we aren't buying another goddamn thing from you." See what happens when WalMart and Dollar Giant stores start going tits-up 12 per week.

We could also discuss violations of labour law, quality control, human rights, etc., etc., etc., but the currency issue alone is reason to suspend all trade with China. We should be ashamed to deal with them in any way. And as a man with high demand for Asian porn and a serious wanton addiction, it pains me to say so.

[martin14]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

So ae we sending refined product, or raw logs?

The title says lumber exports. Raw logs aren't lumber.

I highly doubt we are sending finished tables, chairs, mouldings,
doors, cabinetry, etc.

Maybe we cut the logs square for easy shipping, but that's it.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

martin14 martin14:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

So ae we sending refined product, or raw logs?

The title says lumber exports. Raw logs aren't lumber.

I highly doubt we are sending finished tables, chairs, mouldings,
doors, cabinetry, etc.

Maybe we cut the logs square for easy shipping, but that's it.

Logs are timber. Lumber is wood that is waiting to be turned into something

[RUEZ]

martin14 martin14:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

So ae we sending refined product, or raw logs?

The title says lumber exports. Raw logs aren't lumber.

I highly doubt we are sending finished tables, chairs, mouldings,
doors, cabinetry, etc.

Maybe we cut the logs square for easy shipping, but that's it.

The wood we sell from BC is softwood pine and spruce. You don't make a lot from that other than dimensional lumber and roof trusses.

[andyt]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

So ae we sending refined product, or raw logs?

If it's anything like our trade with the US, it's probably raw materials, not value-added lumber.

It's both, but the bulk is lumber. This is very good news for BC. The Steelworkers made some sort of side deal with small mill owners to get them working again. Damn unions.