[Newsbot]

Title: California must free thousands of inmates: top court
Category: Uncle Sam
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2011-05-23 16:27:05

[andyt]

Prop 13 and 3 strikes coming to back to bite them in ass.

[desertdude]

It really is amazing how large America's prison population is. Was somewhere around just over two million I think. Two million ! Thats hell of lot of people behind bars.

[Brenda]

Gotta love the comments of the guy that keeps going on about what Canada does. NOT important, this is about California. Geesh

[raydan]

desertdude desertdude:

It really is amazing how large America's prison population is. Was somewhere around just over two million I think. Two million ! Thats hell of lot of people behind bars.

756 prisoners per 100,000, the only other country even close is Russia at 611.
In Canada, it's 107... Japan, 62... India, 22.

Some countries don't give the information, some have political prisoners, some should probably have larger prison populations if it wasn't for a weak police force.

[andyt]

raydan raydan:

756 prisoners per 100,000, the only other country even close is Russia at 611.

Yes, but that is what makes the US and Russia such safe countries. Their criminal justice systems are just more efficient than other countries, keeping the general population safe.

[BartSimpson]

Oddly, the FBI just announced a precipitous drop in crime rates in the USA. Seems the right people (for the most part) are locked up.

Too bad we don't have a handy place to exile them all to.

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Oddly, the FBI just announced a precipitous drop in crime rates in the USA. Seems the right people (for the most part) are locked up.

Too bad we don't have a handy place to exile them all to.

Let's twist again, like we did last summer, eh, Bart?

[Brenda]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Oddly, the FBI just announced a precipitous drop in crime rates in the USA. Seems the right people (for the most part) are locked up.

Too bad we don't have a handy place to exile them all to.

You do. It's called Gitmo.
Or any prison on the Mississippi river atm
"We shoot everything that breaches the levies. Beavers, snakes... Just not the gators. We like the gators."

[desertdude]

andyt andyt:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Oddly, the FBI just announced a precipitous drop in crime rates in the USA. Seems the right people (for the most part) are locked up.

Too bad we don't have a handy place to exile them all to.

Let's twist again, like we did last summer, eh, Bart?

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

Let's twist again, like we did last summer, eh, Bart?

Yep. At the end of a rope.

[CommanderSock]

People being arrested for dealing dime bags, and smoking week on the street, no wonder Cali's jails have turned into glorified dormitories with roaming youth gangs within.

Good luck Cali, maybe it's time for real reform.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

Prop 13 and 3 strikes coming to back to bite them in ass.

Prop 13 is a control on taxes that allows senior citizens to stay in their homes. I take it you're okay with the idea of old people having to sell their homes when the tax man raises the property tax on them?

Because that's what was happening when Prop 13 was implemented.

My cousin Brendan was a beneficiary of this law. In the late 1960's he bought a modest 3/2 house for $10,000 in what was then a rural community called 'Montecito'. That area became fashionable and by 1977 he was being assessed on a value of near $1,000,000 and Prop 13 saved him from losing his home to the tax man.

Right now we have Lt. Governor Gavin Newsome (whom I'm sure you'd love) who wants Prop 13 repealed so the property tax on all homeowners can be raised to a 'more fair' rate of 10% annually.

10%.

For me that means paying more money in taxes than I used to pay for mortgage payments.

Sorry, no.

On Three Strikes - that would not have happened absent the fact of the revolving door that was going on for career criminals.

I'm okay with ending 3 strikes so long as you're okay with criminals getting shot - because that's where this is going to go.

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

andyt andyt:

Prop 13 and 3 strikes coming to back to bite them in ass.

Prop 13 is a control on taxes that allows senior citizens to stay in their homes. I take it you're okay with the idea of old people having to sell their homes when the tax man raises the property tax on them?

Because that's what was happening when Prop 13 was implemented.

My cousin Brendan was a beneficiary of this law. In the late 1960's he bought a modest 3/2 house for $10,000 in what was then a rural community called 'Montecito'. That area became fashionable and by 1977 he was being assessed on a value of near $1,000,000 and Prop 13 saved him from losing his home to the tax man.

Right now we have Lt. Governor Gavin Newsome (whom I'm sure you'd love) who wants Prop 13 repealed so the property tax on all homeowners can be raised to a 'more fair' rate of 10% annually.

10%.

For me that means paying more money in taxes than I used to pay for mortgage payments.

Sorry, no.

On Three Strikes - that would not have happened absent the fact of the revolving door that was going on for career criminals.

I'm okay with ending 3 strikes so long as you're okay with criminals getting shot - because that's where this is going to go.

If you're going to put masses of people in prison, you'll have to pay the taxes that allow the prisons to be built. We just had the same argument up here, with our numbnuts wanting to replicate your mistakes, since we like to copy everything the states does, just years later. But at least the feds put up money for more prisons, if I understand it rightly, but tried to keep the amount secret.

There's no free enterprise solution to the cost of putting people in prison. You're going to have to pay taxes to do it. Simple really. If you want your cousin to be able to stay in his house, tell him to vote for more taxes on the rich, instead of him.

[raydan]

andyt andyt:

raydan raydan:

756 prisoners per 100,000, the only other country even close is Russia at 611.

Yes, but that is what makes the US and Russia such safe countries. Their criminal justice systems are just more efficient than other countries, keeping the general population safe.

...and they haven't started locking up those damn homosexuals yet.