[Newsbot]

Title: Tasered child illustrates need for civilian RCMP oversight: BCCLA
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: wildrosegirl
Date: 2011-04-10 08:51:07
Canadian

[RUEZ]

They are completey ignoring the fact that this child stabbed someone. And he can't even be charged. That's what needs to be changed. If he thinks a group home is hell, imagine prison.

[jeff744]

RUEZ RUEZ:

They are completey ignoring the fact that this child stabbed someone. And he can't even be charged. That's what needs to be changed. If he thinks a group home is hell, imagine prison.

Of course they are, the police get blamed for doing their jobs all the time because people are too blind to the fact that the police sometimes have to use force because otherwise they will be risking their lives. These civilian oversight groups would get a cop fired for refusing to walk an old lady across the street because they were in the middle of arresting a criminal.

[CDN_PATRIOT]

$1:

"Obviously, officers are much larger and should be able to control an 11-year-old without resorting to Tasers," he said. "Also, we don't know what effect Tasers have on children. There's no research."

Effects of Tasers? They should be glad the cops didn't all draw their pistols and opened fire with those. These people are clearly blind to the dangers faced by police. Morons. I wonder if they ever hear themselves and the nonsense they spew out.

-J.

[Thanos]

They're social liberals. They're stuck in the ridiculous bubble of their own empty thoughts and ridiculously dangerous theories as much as the social conservatives are with their own ones as well. The rest of us in the vast majority that's eternally stuck between these two camps are invariably the ones who get fucked over after we get to experience another liberal (or conservative) philosophy that totally goes plotz.

The kid's alive, if slightly battered, and no one else (especially an officer) got hurt or killed. Why this isn't seen as a victory, and a validation of the non-lethal restraint a Taser can provide in a dangerous situation, is beyond me.

[andyt]

Thanos Thanos:

They're social liberals. They're stuck in the ridiculous bubble of their own empty thoughts and ridiculously dangerous theories as much as the social conservatives are with their own ones as well. The rest of us in the vast majority that's eternally stuck between these two camps are invariably the ones who get fucked over after we get to experience another liberal (or conservative) philosophy that totally goes plotz.

The kid's alive, if slightly battered, and no one else (especially an officer) got hurt or killed. Why this isn't seen as a victory, and a validation of the non-lethal restraint a Taser can provide in a dangerous situation, is beyond me.

As someone who thinks of himself as a social liberal I agree 100%. But then the CBC political compass informed me I'm halfway between social liberal and conservatibe, so there you go. My social liberal says that intervening in this kids life with adequate support early on would have prevented this situation. My social conservative says that once it comes to this, the kid had better experience some consequences for his actions. Being tasered was one of them. 'Course then my social liberal pipes up again and says it's not too late to save this kid if we still invest in rehabilitation for him. Cheaper than waiting till he's a fucked up adult and is seriously dangerous.

[Smacle]

You guys are completely forgetting that a grown man, who is trained is disarming weapons from fully grown criminals, has to resort to electrocuting an 11 year old child in order to subdue him. How embarrassing.

[jeff744]

Smacle Smacle:

You guys are completely forgetting that a grown man, who is trained is disarming weapons from fully grown criminals, has to resort to electrocuting an 11 year old child in order to subdue him. How embarrassing.

The knife makes all the difference, an 11 year old with a knife is plenty old enough to cause serious if not fatal injuries to anyone. But hell, the kid could have been carrying an assault rifle and people would still say the same thing.

[Smacle]

An 11 year old doesn't know how to use a knife to carve chicken, never mind to hurt a trained police officer, I mean, officers.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Smacle Smacle:

An 11 year old doesn't know how to use a knife to carve chicken, never mind to hurt a trained police officer, I mean, officers.

Bullshit. You don't know what that kid knows. My next door neighbour years ago was an Akido master and instructor. His 10 yr old would have been plenty dangerous with a knife had he been so inclined.

[Smacle]

And there's 6 year old girls in vietnam who can write 2 essays at the same time with each hand in different languages on different subjects. I wouldn't assume all kids could do that tho.

[jeff744]

Smacle Smacle:

An 11 year old doesn't know how to use a knife to carve chicken, never mind to hurt a trained police officer, I mean, officers.

I guess you completely missed the previous article where he had already stabbed another adult male.

[Zipperfish]

Well, quite apart from this instance, I think there's a good case for civilian oversight. Cops stick up for cops--noramlly that is a big plus, but in teh case of the public wanting to get rid of bad cops, it can be a big minus.

Mind you, the whole civilian oversight thing is easier said than done.

[jeff744]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Well, quite apart from this instance, I think there's a good case for civilian oversight. Cops stick up for cops--noramlly that is a big plus, but in teh case of the public wanting to get rid of bad cops, it can be a big minus.

Mind you, the whole civilian oversight thing is easier said than done.

Robocop 2, perfect example of a what civilian oversight would result in. Next people will want full civilian oversight for the military too.

[DrCaleb]

jeff744 jeff744:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Well, quite apart from this instance, I think there's a good case for civilian oversight. Cops stick up for cops--noramlly that is a big plus, but in teh case of the public wanting to get rid of bad cops, it can be a big minus.

Mind you, the whole civilian oversight thing is easier said than done.

Robocop 2, perfect example of a what civilian oversight would result in. Next people will want full civilian oversight for the military too.

You know, that was a movie - a tale, fable told for entertainment purposes - right?