[Newsbot]

Title: Israel lodges formal complaint with UN over barrage of Gaza rockets
Category: World
Posted By: Curtman
Date: 2011-03-19 05:56:57

[Curtman]

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Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman instructed Israel's United Nations envoy to lodge a formal complaint with the organization after Israel was hit by over 50 rockets fired from Gaza on Saturday morning.

What's to complain about? Israel chose this when it sabotaged the peace process, and refused to end settlement expansion.

[raydan]

Hamas isn't helping themselves either.
I don't think that agression will help an "independent" Palestinian state.

Stange that Israel went the "formal complaint with UN" route this time, instead of sending them 500 rockets.

[Curtman]

They haven't left the Palestinians with any other option than to make life as miserable as they can for Israel.

US veto in UN led to 60% increase in settlement activity

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A Palestinian specialist in settlement affairs has claimed that America's use of its veto in the UN Security Council last month has led to a rise in the rate of settlement construction in the occupied Palestinian territories. It has, said Abdul Hadi Hantash, increased by more than 60%.

"The US veto gave a green light to the Israelis to push ahead with their illegal settlement policy and to escalate the attacks by Jewish settlers against Palestinians and their property," he added.

[EyeBrock]

Isn't that what the surrounding Arab states have been doing for decades? Trying to make life as miserable as possible for Israel?

[ShepherdsDog]

And every time they try and wipe it out, Israel gets larger. however, the Jews will never recover all of Arab occupied Judea.

[DanSC]

At this point I can't support either side.

[andyt]

We saw from Wikileaks that the Palestinians were almost begging to make peace, willing to surrender a lot of territory, but the Israeli side was having none of it. As long as the US gives them unquestioning support, I guess they can do what they want.

[Bacardi4206]

I'm really more sympathetic towards Israel, it's gotta be tough being a Jewish state surrounded by Arab states that hate you and want you gone. However, Israel isn't helping the process of peace by doing this settlement thing and all else that they do which extremely pisses off the Palestinian people. However what can Israel do? They live next door to a terrorist organization that wishes them all dead, they are under constant attack from these people who are constantly being supplied with weapons, motors and ammo from Egypt. Also that whole Iranian weapon shipment with anti-ship missles and if Israel takes one step towards trying to defend itself. The whole world goes into a bitch frenzy.

Though it wouldn't be the first time in history Israel had to defend itself alone and got chewed out by the international community by simply attempting to defend itself and citizens. The only way this is going to end correctly is if Hamas straight out fucks off so Israel and Palestine can come to a arrangement that benefits both people. So long as Hamas occupies Palestine, that's not going to happen. Since majority of people are blind haters of Israel (what else is new?), while sympathetic towards Hamas terrorists. I think I'd have the right to be one of the few that support Israel.

[andyt]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

I'm really more sympathetic towards Israel, it's gotta be tough being a Jewish state surrounded by Arab states that hate you and want you gone.

Me too. They've certianly built a much more viable state than any of their neighbors who had centuries more to do so.

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

However, Israel isn't helping the process of peace by doing this settlement thing and all else that they do which extremely pisses off the Palestinian people. However what can Israel do? They live next door to a terrorist organization that wishes them all dead, they are under constant attack from these people who are constantly being supplied with weapons, motors and ammo from Egypt. Also that whole Iranian weapon shipment with anti-ship missles and if Israel takes one step towards trying to defend itself. The whole world goes into a bitch frenzy.

What they can do is stop the settlement thing. Pull back to the green line. If they need to station troops in the West Bank to protect Israel, I have no problem with that if it's justified. But settlements just show the Palestinians that the Israelis are not serious about a two state solution - the want to gobble up as much land as they can. If the Akwsesasne Mohawks had the military power to keep taking Canadian land and putting their people on it, I wouldn't consider that a peacemaking move either.

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Though it wouldn't be the first time in history Israel had to defend itself alone and got chewed out by the international community by simply attempting to defend itself and citizens. The only way this is going to end correctly is if Hamas straight out fucks off so Israel and Palestine can come to a arrangement that benefits both people. So long as Hamas occupies Palestine, that's not going to happen. Since majority of people are blind haters of Israel (what else is new?), while sympathetic towards Hamas terrorists. I think I'd have the right to be one of the few that support Israel.

Israel has it's own Jewish version of Hamas - the settler movement. I can understand the formation of Hamas with what Israel has been doing. But Hamas is a non-entity confined to Gaza. They represent no threat to Israel at all. If Israel showed it was serious about finding a two state solution it would take the wind out of Hamas' sails and lose them a lot of support. Then the Palestinians could drive out Hamas, with help fro Israel if needed.

But look at what Wikileaks proved - the Palestinian negotiators were giving up position after position trying to make a deal, and the Israeli negotiators wouldn't budge. Israel doesn't want peace unless they get all of Palestine and Jordan too. Who can blame the Palestinians for resisting that.