[Newsbot]

Title: Bill to abolish early parole passes Commons
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Bodah
Date: 2011-02-18 03:46:38
Canadian

[Curtman]

$1:

"This is a bad bill, negotiated in secret by the Bloc-Conservative coalition, that goes too far, costs too much and targets too many minor offenders," said Ignatieff. "It's another example of the Conservatives' dumb-on-crime agenda. We cannot support this bill."

I don't know where the in-secret part comes from. Hasn't this bill been on the agenda for 3 years or so?

[Proculation]

Curtman Curtman:

$1:

"This is a bad bill, negotiated in secret by the Bloc-Conservative coalition, that goes too far, costs too much and targets too many minor offenders," said Ignatieff. "It's another example of the Conservatives' dumb-on-crime agenda. We cannot support this bill."

I don't know where the in-secret part comes from. Hasn't this bill been on the agenda for 3 years or so?

It's Ignatieff... For some times he is in "blame everything the Conservatives do" mode.

But you are right. it was brought a few times at the Commons.

[Thanos]

Considering that total devastation white collar criminals leave behind them they should be receiving the exact same sentences that violent criminals do. Not that it'll ever happen, because the bastards literally own the United States government lock, stock, and barrel, but if there was ever a threat of serious prison time to them then maybe the sons of bitches on Wall Street would think twice about the criminal schemes they keep using that endanger the economic health of the entire world.

[Proculation]

Thanos Thanos:

Considering that total devastation white collar criminals leave behind them they should be receiving the exact same sentences that violent criminals do. Not that it'll ever happen, because the bastards literally own the United States government lock, stock, and barrel, but if there was ever a threat of serious prison time to them then maybe the sons of bitches on Wall Street would think twice about the criminal schemes they keep using that endanger the economic health of the entire world.

It's a Canadian law.

[Thanos]

Well, duh. But's that's only because Canada's still a place where the vaunted 'businessmen' of the crooked financial sector still haven't been turned into The Greatest Heroes Who Ever Lived. If the Americans even got their heads straightened out and quit worshipping these criminal filth maybe their own country would finally start to get better instead of sinking deeper into the abyss more and more with each passing year.

[Curtman]

Proculation Proculation:

It's Ignatieff... For some times he is in "blame everything the Conservatives do" mode.

Maybe its just return fire for all the times Harper has accused the Liberals of collusion with separatists. I wish he wouldn't sink to that level. It should be enough to show that Harper is the one stalling these bills. Two prorogues and an early election that violated his own fixed election date law did that.

[Lemmy]

There's no point in building new prisons if you aren't going to change policy to ensure you need more prisons. Maybe we should just privatize Corrections Canada and really get the construction underway.

[DerbyX]

Wow. Harper and the CPC form a coalition with the traitorous Bloc to pass a bill! So much for his indignation for the Libs doing so.

[Proculation]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Wow. Harper and the CPC form a coalition with the traitorous Bloc to pass a bill! So much for his indignation for the Libs doing so.

Come on Derby. You know what a coalition means.

[DerbyX]

Proculation Proculation:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Wow. Harper and the CPC form a coalition with the traitorous Bloc to pass a bill! So much for his indignation for the Libs doing so.

Come on Derby. You know what a coalition means.

Yes I do but this quite frankly is no different. He needed the help of the Bloc to pass a bill just like a Lib led "coalition" would. All of it is perfectly legal in our political system.

You've also been around long enough to remember when Martin, who was legally elected to a minority, was bashed left and right by Harper (and CKA CPC supporters) for making deals with the NDP let alone the Bloc.

No matter what Harper denounces any cooperation with the Bloc as "treasonous" (and his supporters eat it up) then turns around and does the same thing all the while claiming that he had to because the Libs/NDP were being obstructionist.

[Proculation]

It's a law being discussed in the Commons ! It has nothing to do with a coalition for an election !

Even if I despise the Bloc, they are still elected. They can vote Yay if they want. The way you say it, it's like every vote that the Bloc approved was treasonous.

[DerbyX]

Proculation Proculation:

It's a law being discussed in the Commons ! It has nothing to do with a coalition for an election !

Even if I despise the Bloc, they are still elected. They can vote Yay if they want. The way you say it, it's like every vote that the Bloc approved was treasonous.

I think you misunderstand the sarcasm. I'm not opposed to getting bills passed with the support of the Bloc. They are a duly elected party. In any case its the provincial parties in QC that control referendums, not the federal parties. I have family members who vote Bloc from time to time federally but NEVER vote PQ (although 1 did vote ADQ during their big moment).