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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:27 am
 


Title: Food prices at 'dangerous' levels: World Bank
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Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2011-02-15 17:37:39


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:27 am
 


Just wait till oil hits 200$ a barrel, and then see what happens.

Time to plant your own.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:30 am
 


This is why people need to stop having children.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:36 am
 


romanP romanP:
This is why people need to stop having children.

Are you crazy?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:47 am
 


Are you blind?

It doesn't take a brilliant statistician to figure out that more people require more resources. Our resources are finite and as population grows, there is less to go around, driving up the cost of everything. With our current global population, the more children everyone has, the more we all suffer, including every new child that is born.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:00 am
 


romanP romanP:
Are you blind?

It doesn't take a brilliant statistician to figure out that more people require more resources. Our resources are finite and as population grows, there is less to go around, driving up the cost of everything. With our current global population, the more children everyone has, the more we all suffer, including every new child that is born.

Mr. Usefull - it's more rational to switch on our brain for working more in agrarian sector.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:05 am
 


Producing more food just helps to increase the population, continuing the problem. Our global population is not sustainable, nor is our western lifestyle where store shelves must never be empty, whether that be food or any other commodity. What you are proposing is a short term solution to a very long-term problem.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:08 am
 


You are going to left one of the most important rights for human - the right to be a parent.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:09 am
 


romanP romanP:
Are you blind?

It doesn't take a brilliant statistician to figure out that more people require more resources. Our resources are finite and as population grows, there is less to go around, driving up the cost of everything. With our current global population, the more children everyone has, the more we all suffer, including every new child that is born.

Thomas Malthus has been dead nearly 200 years and he was wrong even when he was alive.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:18 am
 


Yet never has that theory of Malthus' had so much sway as now, when it has been refuted to the nth degree.

Then again, people believe Marx over Solow and think Ricardo's theories as the basis for modern trade are an abomination, and so on. It's a little disturbing when you read some stuff on these topics in the newspapers or on forums and you can tell that knowing even the names of the minds who made these theories is beyond the author.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:20 am
 


PostFactum PostFactum:
You are going to left one of the most important rights for human - the right to be a parent.


My right as an existing, breathing, eating person trumps your supposed right to make more people when resources are scarce. We do not need to make more people, we need to feed and take care of the ones we have. The whole idea of increasing population for its own sake, or for some selfish desire to have a child of your own just because you want to, is incredibly short-sighted. It does not address and even ignores the fact that every new person on this planet increases demand for all kinds of resources and quite often does so for several decades.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:25 am
 


Lemmy Lemmy:
romanP romanP:
Are you blind?

It doesn't take a brilliant statistician to figure out that more people require more resources. Our resources are finite and as population grows, there is less to go around, driving up the cost of everything. With our current global population, the more children everyone has, the more we all suffer, including every new child that is born.

Thomas Malthus has been dead nearly 200 years and he was wrong even when he was alive.


Well, you dropped a name and a time span, I guess I can't refute that!

Of course he's been wrong for 200 years, the problem of a global food shortage has never existed before in human history until now!


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romanP romanP:
PostFactum PostFactum:
You are going to left one of the most important rights for human - the right to be a parent.


My right as an existing, breathing, eating person trumps your supposed right to make more people when resources are scarce. We do not need to make more people, we need to feed and take care of the ones we have. The whole idea of increasing population for its own sake, or for some selfish desire to have a child of your own just because you want to, is incredibly short-sighted.

Your right ends where rights of other people are beginning. If you can't buy boots for your legs you are not cutting them off, you look for a job for having money.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:32 am
 


Don't confuse him by using a work analogy.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:43 am
 


PostFactum PostFactum:
romanP romanP:
PostFactum PostFactum:
You are going to left one of the most important rights for human - the right to be a parent.


My right as an existing, breathing, eating person trumps your supposed right to make more people when resources are scarce. We do not need to make more people, we need to feed and take care of the ones we have. The whole idea of increasing population for its own sake, or for some selfish desire to have a child of your own just because you want to, is incredibly short-sighted.

Your right ends where rights of other people are beginning. If you can't buy boots for your legs you are not cutting them off, you look for a job for having money.


What you are saying is that I have no right to live because you want to have children.

Look, it's simple math. If you take one apple and divide it amongst ten people, and then each of those ten people produces a child but there is still only one apple to go around, you now have twenty starving people, half of whom may produce more children, and half of whom each may produce an additional child on top of that. Now you potentially have 40 people, but still only one apple.

Your solution to this problem is to grow another apple, or even a whole other tree. But this only solves the problem until there are, once again, too many people eating the same apple or taking apples from the same tree. Keep doing this on the surface of a finite object such as a spheroid body orbiting a nuclear fireball, and you eventually run out of space to grow more trees and more apples and more people. But you ignore the fact that there is no room left, and keep making more people just because you think you have a right to do so. At that point, you are forced to take food from my hand to feed your selfish and unnecessary desire for more people.


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