[Newsbot]

Title: Canadian oilsands pipeline 'crucial' to American economy: U.S. oil industry
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: Canuckism
Date: 2011-01-04 18:27:19
Canadian

[ttruscott]

[ttruscott]

So, why are we letting the chinese buy it up?

[Scape]

Because they own it?

[Thanos]

If the Chinese are good customers who pay their bills on time then why should we discriminate against them when they want to buy our product from us?

[Canadian_Mind]

Americans get 365 000 jobs from one pipeline? How many do we get?

[bootlegga]

Thanos Thanos:

If the Chinese are good customers who pay their bills on time then why should we discriminate against them when they want to buy our product from us?

We're better off if we have more customers instead of always relying on the US. Every time they go into recession we do too because of them being almost our entire export market.

[Lemmy]

Thanos Thanos:

If the Chinese are good customers who pay their bills on time then why should we discriminate against them when they want to buy our product from us?

Because China: a) is a corrupt military dictatorship; b) has a disgraceful record on human rights; c) practises predatory pricing, including the devaluation of its currency; d) ingores most international trade conventions; e) ingores safety and labour standards, including the use of child labour; f) executes political dissidents; g) is actively exploiting African and other third world countries for their resources; h) continues to export products with little regard for consumer safety standards; i) is failing to live up to its obligations on numerous international conventions; j) supports rogue regimes like Iran, North Korea, Sudan and Libya; k) ignores international conventions on the protection of intellectual property and allows blatent piracy of copywritten materials; l) suppresses free speech and censors media and the internet; m) ignores environmental standards. That's half the alphabet worth of sound reasons to tell China to fuck off. With a little thought, I could easily go all the way to "z".

[Thanos]

^
None of these Chinese flaws apparently bother too many Canadians when they do their Christmas shopping at WalMart. Or when they go to buy a new 'North American built' automobile which is increasingly full of Made-In-China components. So why should the oil industry (i.e. *cough*cough*Alberta*cough*cough*) be held out as the sacrificial economic platform upon which we finally make a very late, and totally hypocritical, moral stand?

[Unsound]

Because there aren't all that many seats in parliament from Alberta.

[Lemmy]

Thanos Thanos:

None of these Chinese flaws apparently bother too many Canadians when they do their Christmas shopping at WalMart. Or when they go to buy a new 'North American built' automobile which is increasingly full of Made-In-China components. So why should the oil industry (i.e. *cough*cough*Alberta*cough*cough*) be held out as the sacrificial economic platform upon which we finally make a very late, and totally hypocritical, moral stand?

Just because it doesn't bother Canadians doesn't mean it SHOULDN'T bother Canadians. Western apathy towards all kinds of immoral behaviour is our collective ticket to hell in a hand-basket. You're absolutely correct in your criticism of our WalMart hypocrisies. But two wrongs never made a right. And if I were in charge, we wouldn't be selling any oil to anyone. I'd shut down the oil-sands in five seconds.

[Zipperfish]

China is fine as long as they keep working for a dime and hour.

[GreenTiger]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

China is fine as long as they keep working for a dime and hour.

Yes, a dime and hour wages when it is supposed to be a "workers state".

I wonder if the subject of labour unions ever comes up in the People's Rupublic? It sounds like they need one.

[GreenTiger]

Why do we say it is necessary? Any American with at least two working brain cells would tell that we we would by far profer to deal with our friends than the thumb suckers in the middle east.

If we age going to enrich a different nation I would prefer it to be Canada and not the psychotics that run the middle east countries or Africa.

[Thanos]

Lemmy Lemmy:

Just because it doesn't bother Canadians doesn't mean it SHOULDN'T bother Canadians. Western apathy towards all kinds of immoral behaviour is our collective ticket to hell in a hand-basket. You're absolutely correct in your criticism of our WalMart hypocrisies. But two wrongs never made a right. And if I were in charge, we wouldn't be selling any oil to anyone. I'd shut down the oil-sands in five seconds.

So to feel righteous you'd lay the hammer to the engine that now propels half of the Canadian economy? Nice one.