[Newsbot]

Title: Harper dismisses Expo 2017 complaints
Category: Political
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2010-11-29 15:23:00
Canadian

[Freakinoldguy]

After the cost of the Winter Olympics is it anywonder that Governments are shying away from these types of events?

[Gunnair]

As long as there is no hockey area in Quebec...

[jeff744]

Gunnair Gunnair:

As long as there is no hockey area in Quebec...

They'll still get it, when they do they will just prove the classic system, the west simply does not matter to the government, when they look west it is because Quebec and Ontario got in trouble again and they need money.

[bootlegga]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

After the cost of the Winter Olympics is it anywonder that Governments are shying away from these types of events?

Yet the federal government is funding Toronto's Pan-Am Games in 2015...it has nothing to do with risk and everything to do with location.

If Edmonton didn't constantly elect Conservatives, we probably would have gotten funding. But the seats here are 'safe', so why give us anything when they can by seats in Ontario and Quebec?

The argument that security will balloon is a joke, because with the Expo, everything would have been held on one site - yet Toronto's Pan-Am Games will have a couple dozen venues that will need to be secured.

[Yogi]

Personally, I'm against any tax monies being spent for 'games'. If any city requires infrastructure funding, then that is quite another matter. Added security costs are not an issue when a municipality is building roadways and bridges!
However, in this particular pissing-match, the funding for Toronto was approved over 2 years ago when Canada was in much better financial shape, and the future looked pretty rosy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bids_for_t ... ican_Games

[DrCaleb]

Yogi Yogi:

However, in this particular pissing-match, the funding for Toronto was approved over 2 years ago when Canada was in much better financial shape, and the future looked pretty rosy!

And how will the economy be in 2017?

If only we could just get one good duck pond, the tourists would 'flock' to Edmonton.

[Gunnair]

jeff744 jeff744:

Gunnair Gunnair:

As long as there is no hockey area in Quebec...

They'll still get it, when they do they will just prove the classic system, the west simply does not matter to the government, when they look west it is because Quebec and Ontario got in trouble again and they need money.

Not so sure about that. If Quebec gets money for an arena, I think there will be a real and angry push back from the west.

[bootlegga]

Gunnair Gunnair:

jeff744 jeff744:

Gunnair Gunnair:

As long as there is no hockey area in Quebec...

They'll still get it, when they do they will just prove the classic system, the west simply does not matter to the government, when they look west it is because Quebec and Ontario got in trouble again and they need money.

Not so sure about that. If Quebec gets money for an arena, I think there will be a real and angry push back from the west.

Odds are, Edmonton's downtown stadium project will be its consolation prize for not getting funding for the Expo.

[bootlegga]

Yogi Yogi:

Personally, I'm against any tax monies being spent for 'games'. If any city requires infrastructure funding, then that is quite another matter. Added security costs are not an issue when a municipality is building roadways and bridges!
However, in this particular pissing-match, the funding for Toronto was approved over 2 years ago when Canada was in much better financial shape, and the future looked pretty rosy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bids_for_t ... ican_Games

Sorry, I don't buy it. The government knew well before they funded this (August 7, 2008 according to your source) that the economy was headed for shaky ground. There had been rumblings for months about the sub-prime meltdown in the US and its ability to affect the global economy.

Call me a cynic, but this funding was granted to buy votes for the election (held on October 18, 2008), not because the economy was in great shape.

Like I said previously, if we had still had a couple Liberal ridings, we would have gotten the $706 million Mandel wanted. It's because the sheeple here vote Conservative blue every election that Harper feels he doesn't have to worry about losing seats here.

Honestly, I'm hoping the Liberal candidates here make sure everyone remembers yet another snub by the Conservatives next spring (the next expected election).

[Gunnair]

Wonder how much the Pan Am games in Toronto will cost us in 2015?

[QBC]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Wonder how much the Pan Am games in Toronto will cost us in 2015?

It's the Pan-Am games..... $8.42 and that includes a happy meal for a guy with a disposable digital camera to capture all the highlights.

[bootlegga]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Wonder how much the Pan Am games in Toronto will cost us in 2015?

Almost as much as Edmonton's Expo - $600 million or so.

$1:

Federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty, who is also the minister responsible for the Greater Toronto Area (GTA), said Thursday more work needs to be done before the government can commit to the requested one-third of the $1.77-billion (about $600 million) it would cost the bid. He said, "we need to work on that $1.77 billion figure to make sure that that will be the actual figure", adding the costs of security and infrastructure, in particular, need "more due diligence".

http://www.gamesbids.com/eng/commonweal ... 33596.html