[Newsbot]

Title: Mom guilty of murder in daughters' drownings
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: andyt
Date: 2010-11-15 08:45:12
Canadian

[andyt]

great - the jury didn't buy her bullshit about being crazy. She'll have 25 years to think about what she did.

[PostFactum]

It's difficult to believe that the mother can do this, but that happends

[billypilgrim]

selfish + religious = 2 dead children.

[desertdude]

Let her go ! She hormones were playing havoc with her

[Johnny_H]

"Leo, there are you happy?" she says. "Everything's gone ... The idea that you could actually have my children — God believes me and God's taking care of them now."
I wish there was a facepalm smilie

[desertdude]

How bout this instead

[EyeBrock]

I just couldn't read the court reports in the media. Such evil.

[andyt]

To switch tack here. I'm glad she got convicted of murder so she's just not institutionalized for a year and then released. But I do think she's nuts, should be institutionalized and get the help she needs. I would even release her early if she agreed to a tubal ligation. But, she needs to be closely watched the rest of her life - not allowed to be around kids. Under those conditions I would be willing to release her on parole. For life.

[billypilgrim]

religion is poison enough on its own: mixed with emotional instability, it is lethal. ..as verified by this tragedy..

[Gunnair]

billypilgrim billypilgrim:

selfish + religious = 2 dead children.

noob + four posts = dumb equation.

Please explain how you figure religion played into this tragedy vice a mental illness?

[Gunnair]

billypilgrim billypilgrim:

religion is poison enough on its own: mixed with emotional instability, it is lethal. ..as verified by this tragedy..

[billypilgrim]

Gunnair Gunnair:

billypilgrim billypilgrim:

selfish + religious = 2 dead children.

noob + four posts = dumb equation.

Please explain how you figure religion played into this tragedy vice a mental illness?

sure.. she drowned her kids: pretty crazy. she indicated that she was vindicated by god in doing so: a common religious perspective, ie: i can do something wrong because god will understand and forgive me, but punish the person i'm really trying to hurt.

when you are crazy enough to murder your own children, the lethality is only heightened by a perceived religious "permission" to do so. in this case, her poisoned mind envisioned her children in heaven, while the father now grieves the reality of the situation, ie: his daughters are dead, and two innocent lives were needlessly snuffed out. again, becuase of the bad combo of mental illness, selfishness, and religion. ..it wasn't an insult, just a sad reality...

as for being a 'noob'. no need to be so protective. you had to put your first post somewhere too, no? ..or do opinions and sentiments only count after you've become "super elite" or "wicked awesome commander of the online forum" ?

[Choban]

So glad no one bought her BS, I'm not sayng she isn't mental (who else could kill her own children) but the fact of her statements on tape certainly shows us that she knew exactly what she was doing and why.

@ Billy, allot of bipolar/schitzos believe in god, doesn't mean they are religious, though for lack of better understanding in most of them it's either God or The Devil talking to them in the mirror, the Manitoba Bus Beheader claimed God told him to do it, I have Family with mental health issues and inevitably God arises when he's having an episode though he claims not to believe in God when of sound mind.

[billypilgrim]

Choban Choban:

So glad no one bought her BS, I'm not sayng she isn't mental (who else could kill her own children) but the fact of her statements on tape certainly shows us that she knew exactly what she was doing and why.

@ Billy, allot of bipolar/schitzos believe in god, doesn't mean they are religious, though for lack of better understanding in most of them it's either God or The Devil talking to them in the mirror, the Manitoba Bus Beheader claimed God told him to do it, I have Family with mental health issues and inevitably God arises when he's having an episode though he claims not to believe in God when of sound mind.

agreed. (although there is nothing saying she was bipolar or schizoid.) but she clearly is religious, as she a)believes in god b) felt vindicated by god c) had assumed some construct of a god-world relative to 'heaven', where her children would reside now and d) used at least some portion of this collection to absolve herself morally from what she did and transfer blame to her husband's alleged misdeeds. personally, i think believing in god is interchangeable with the term 'religion'. if you want to say being religious means more than believing in god, fine: she clearly had religious beliefs outside of just divine faith, as she introduced also the notions of heaven; divine authority; divine morality; and divine justice. ...all hallmarks of virtually every religion.

i'll ask this honest question to, especially, the super uber status army guy:

would an atheist be less likely to send her kids off to the empty void, knowing that there is no god and no heaven and no divine forgiveness? i think an atheist would be waaaaay less likely to murder her children.