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Title: Cop on trial for assault says he used proper force
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2010-10-20 22:52:27
Canadian

[CrazyNewfie]

I would bet everything I own that the cop is lieing, I bet he was drunker than he says and I bet he put the boots to the paper deliver man.

[jeff744]

CrazyNewfie CrazyNewfie:

I would bet everything I own that the cop is lieing, I bet he was drunker than he says and I bet he put the boots to the paper deliver man.

I bet the other guy is too, makes your case a lot better when you argue you have not been able to recover even after 2 years, adding a few things to the list of what he didn't shouldn't be a challenge.

[Brenda]

He used "proper force, in accordance to his training."
Nice. But he was not on duty, so there was no need to use any force. If he was a trained Karate-Ka, would that be "proper force, in accordance to his training" too?

I have a real hard time with this one, although I think the victims "I still have nightmares every night" is a bit over the top...

[raydan]

Doesn't matter how drunk he was.
Was there sufficient reasons to arrest the guy, and did he use "proper force"?

[EyeBrock]

It all sounds very dodgy.

[desertdude]

Any clarification into why they got into a tussle in the first place ?

[QBC]

I'd like to hear what started it all. They came to a buddies "rescue" by the sound of things, but they haven't explained why the buddy and the news paper dude were having an issue in the first place. They don't explain clearly what was going on at the scene when the cop arrived either. Was the news paper guy taking it to his buddy? Was his buddy crap kicking the news paper guy? Tough to get a clear picture with what is said here.

[EyeBrock]

There must be enough to charge which says it all for me.

[raydan]

$1:

West Vancouver Const. Griffin Gillan, who has already pleaded guilty to assaulting Khan, testified he has no memory of beating the man until Klassen and the other off-duty officer, Delta police Const. Blair Tanino, joined him.

The "pleaded guilty" part kinda says it all, at least for Gillan.
Klassen came in later.

[Brenda]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

There must be enough to charge which says it all for me.

How does that work, EB, when you are off duty, and you see something happen (whether it's a co-worker or not), should you butt in and do what this guy did and use "proper force" or should you just call your collegues (like we should all call the cops instead of beating someone up...)

[QBC]

Hu, didn't see that.

Yeah, why would he have to restrain Khan if the other dude was giving him an ass whoopin.

(mind you, it could have been because of that hair dye job Khan is sporting....It looks so ..."natural".... )

[QBC]

Brenda Brenda:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

There must be enough to charge which says it all for me.

How does that work, EB, when you are off duty, and you see something happen (whether it's a co-worker or not), should you butt in and do what this guy did and use "proper force" or should you just call your collegues (like we should all call the cops instead of beating someone up...)

A cop is never really "off duty". If they see a crime or disturbance, I believe they are obligated to get involved, buddy or not. If he's had a snoot full, better judgement would be to call in on duty cops immediately, but if he perceived the threat as urgent, I think he has to get involved.

[Brenda]

Even when drunk?
I mean, if a cop is never really off duty, then he should never be drunk either...

[andyt]

The testimony so far is that Kahn was delivering newspapers, Klassen asked him for directions and Kahn said wait until I drop off these papers, at which point Klassen attecked him. Also, at least one of the cops was heard to say "we don't like brown people" tho it could not be identified who. The independent witnesses all confirm that Klassen attacked Kahn. When a rookie, on duty cop, a former trainee of Klassen's in the use of force, arrived, he first arrested Kahn. When the independent witnesses came forward, that changed to arresting the 3 cops. So while Kahn may be trying to milk the system for any civil law suit, it's the dickhead cops that should be dismissed from their forces. One of them was so drunk he kicked his own buddy in the face. We don't need racist bullies like these guys on our police forces.