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Title: Prep kept H1N1 from being another Spanish Flu
Category: Health
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2010-09-30 17:14:17
Canadian

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[rockindel1]

what A CROCK OF SHIT. big pharma ramping up the propoganda for the winter "flu season"

[Brenda]

I didn't get a flu shot, and I never have. I have only had the flu once, and that was when I was 11 or 12. The rest were all colds.

[raydan]

Somebody's trying to justify all the money that was spent last flu season, or the money that they want to spend this season.

[hurley_108]

Influenza is a very serious disease - as truthfully stated, the 1918 epidemic killed tens of millions. Without effective procedures in place to develop, manufacture, and distribute vaccines, there will be another - probably deadlier given the ever increasing population densities and potential mobility of carriers.

Whether H1N1 would have been such a killer without the vaccination campaign as it was carried out we'll never know, but that's no excuse not to keep up the work and keep learning from mistakes.

[BartSimpson]

I did not take the H1N1 shot. Frankly, all the hype had me wondering WTF was really going on and there was NF way I was going to take that shot.

[raydan]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Influenza is a very serious disease - as truthfully stated, the 1918 epidemic killed tens of millions. Without effective procedures in place to develop, manufacture, and distribute vaccines, there will be another - probably deadlier given the ever increasing population densities and potential mobility of carriers.

Whether H1N1 would have been such a killer without the vaccination campaign as it was carried out we'll never know, but that's no excuse not to keep up the work and keep learning from mistakes.

I thought that thinning out the herd was a good thing.

[BartSimpson]

raydan raydan:

I thought that thinning out the herd was a good thing.

Here's a fun read for you:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Six_(novel)

[hurley_108]

raydan raydan:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Influenza is a very serious disease - as truthfully stated, the 1918 epidemic killed tens of millions. Without effective procedures in place to develop, manufacture, and distribute vaccines, there will be another - probably deadlier given the ever increasing population densities and potential mobility of carriers.

Whether H1N1 would have been such a killer without the vaccination campaign as it was carried out we'll never know, but that's no excuse not to keep up the work and keep learning from mistakes.

I thought that thinning out the herd was a good thing.

Well forest fires, for instance, are nescessary for the maintenance of good forest health, but the sitation as it relates to the human race is slightly more complicated. And emotional.

[hurley_108]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I did not take the H1N1 shot. Frankly, all the hype had me wondering WTF was really going on and there was NF way I was going to take that shot.

Well there were certain groups who needed it more (those with preexisting respiratory conditions, those with small children in the household) than others (those without previous, and people over 50 - a reversal of the usual reccomendations). A lot of people in the latter category lined up and got it, making it worse for those who did need it.

But then there were a lot of hyped up reasons not to take the shot coming out of the anti-vax community, mostly around the thimerosal and its mercury content, and a highly dubious claim linking this to autism. But as far as mercury goes, there's 8 times as much mercury in an average can of tuna as there is in a dose of the flu vaccine, and the methyl mercury in tuna stays in your body 7 times longer then the ethyl mercury in the thiomersal. So one can of tuna is basically 56 times as potent a source of mercury as one dose of the flu vaccine. And there's no substantiated link between this mercury and autism.

But that didn't stop these anti-vax fearmongers from putting on "seminars" peddling their stupid, and the press was typically non-commital on whether or not their view was crap or not.

You might argue that there was a bit of fearmongering on the side of the vaccination campaign, but at least that was erring on the side of caution. Anti-vax were telling people to err on the side of ignorance, and that's just reckless and irresponsible.

[Hyack]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

raydan raydan:

I thought that thinning out the herd was a good thing.

Here's a fun read for you:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Six_(novel)

Rainbow Six was a great read, but then I've always been a fan of Clancy.

[Scape]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

You might argue that there was a bit of fearmongering on the side of the vaccination campaign, but at least that was erring on the side of caution. Anti-vax were telling people to err on the side of ignorance, and that's just reckless and irresponsible.

[sandorski]

I didn't get the Shot either. It's not that I refused or anything, I was just too lazy to bother.

[raydan]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

raydan raydan:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Influenza is a very serious disease - as truthfully stated, the 1918 epidemic killed tens of millions. Without effective procedures in place to develop, manufacture, and distribute vaccines, there will be another - probably deadlier given the ever increasing population densities and potential mobility of carriers.

Whether H1N1 would have been such a killer without the vaccination campaign as it was carried out we'll never know, but that's no excuse not to keep up the work and keep learning from mistakes.

I thought that thinning out the herd was a good thing.

Well forest fires, for instance, are nescessary for the maintenance of good forest health, but the sitation as it relates to the human race is slightly more complicated. And emotional.

Not what I meant... what's missing with the human race today is natural selection, the survival of the fittest.
Anybody can reproduce so it's not necessarily the best genes that are being passed on from generation to generation.