[Newsbot]

Title: Canadian Navy�s ships risk being banned from foreign ports
Category: Military
Posted By: Scape
Date: 2010-08-06 13:00:00
Canadian

[QBall]

And the Navy reaches a new low, thanks to the politicians. What a way to celebrate 100 years!

[bootlegga]

Sigh...

[Freakinoldguy]

This is just more politcal bullshit. Can anyone name and instance of a Canadian AOR, Provider included, having a "major" oil spill.

So while I agree with the replacement of the two remaining Tankers, scare mongering isn't the way the Government should be attempting to get the population on side.

[Choban]

I agree...Sigh...

[Dragom]

So we can build some new tankers at Esquimalt? That would be great.

In the mean time... I don't like the idea of the Canadian Navy panhandling for fuel and munitions while on operations.

[Freakinoldguy]

Dragom Dragom:

So we can build some new tankers at Esquimalt? That would be great.

Where?

Shipbuilding capabilites in Esquimalt went the way of the DODO when Yarrows closed down in 87 and surely, you aren't suggesting that FMF and Dockyard get into the ship building business are you?

[Dragom]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Dragom Dragom:

So we can build some new tankers at Esquimalt? That would be great.

Where?

Shipbuilding capabilites in Esquimalt went the way of the DODO when Yarrows closed down in 87 and surely, you aren't suggesting that FMF and Dockyard get into the ship building business are you?

I know theres a huge military dry dock there.

Though maybe it's the wrong kinda dock to build a ship in.

I thought half the reason they subsidize that dock was so that we could build a ship if we really wanted to.

[Freakinoldguy]

Dragom Dragom:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Dragom Dragom:

So we can build some new tankers at Esquimalt? That would be great.

Where?

Shipbuilding capabilites in Esquimalt went the way of the DODO when Yarrows closed down in 87 and surely, you aren't suggesting that FMF and Dockyard get into the ship building business are you?

I know theres a huge military dry dock there.

Though maybe it's the wrong kinda dock to build a ship in.

I thought half the reason they subsidize that dock was so that we could build a ship if we really wanted to.

Washington Marine Group owns the Graving Dock now and use it for repair work, but it takes considerably more resources than a Graving Dock to build a ship the size of these Tankers.

Unfortunately, succesive Governments allowed the West Coast ship building industry to wither on the vine in favor of keeping Lauzon Quebec and St John New Brunswick afloat.

So consequently if and when these new ships are built it will likely be in one of the two aforementioned places.

[QBall]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Washington Marine Group owns the Graving Dock now and use it for repair work, but it takes considerably more resources than a Graving Dock to build a ship the size of these Tankers.

Unfortunately, succesive Governments allowed the West Coast ship building industry to wither on the vine in favor of keeping Lauzon Quebec and St John New Brunswick afloat.

So consequently if and when these new ships are built it will likely be in one of the two aforementioned places.

The Graving Dock is owned by the federal government, not the Washington Marine Group. Companies that use the dock (including the two biggest: Victoria Shipyards and Esquimalt Drydock now that CME went bankrupt) rent the time from the federal government.

[Gunnair]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Dragom Dragom:

So we can build some new tankers at Esquimalt? That would be great.

Where?

Shipbuilding capabilites in Esquimalt went the way of the DODO when Yarrows closed down in 87 and surely, you aren't suggesting that FMF and Dockyard get into the ship building business are you?

Victoria shipyards is still there, but they build smaller ships like the ORCAs.

[Freakinoldguy]

QBall QBall:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Washington Marine Group owns the Graving Dock now and use it for repair work, but it takes considerably more resources than a Graving Dock to build a ship the size of these Tankers.

Unfortunately, succesive Governments allowed the West Coast ship building industry to wither on the vine in favor of keeping Lauzon Quebec and St John New Brunswick afloat.

So consequently if and when these new ships are built it will likely be in one of the two aforementioned places.

The Graving Dock is owned by the federal government, not the Washington Marine Group. Companies that use the dock (including the two biggest: Victoria Shipyards and Esquimalt Drydock now that CME went bankrupt) rent the time from the federal government.

My mistake. Washinton marine group only owns Vancouver Shipyard and Vancouver Drydock.

[Freakinoldguy]

Here's an interesting link and by the article it seems the Washinton Marine Group wants the West Coast to get it's share of major shipbuilding from the Federal Government.

http://www.washingtonmarinegroup.com/docs/cansailb.pdf

It'd be nice to see some major shipbuilding capability on the west coast again, but given politics I won't hold my breath.

[EyeBrock]

Just more crap from our media that would rather report on anything remotely negative to do with the CF or the cops than say a native reserve attacking the police and running them out of town.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... le1663733/

[Bodah]

I'm glad we got called out.

Better to be banned than be responsible for an oil spill I say.

$1:

The Conservative government announced in July that it will spend $2.6-billion to replace the navy’s two auxiliary oil replenishment vessels – the HMCS Protecteur and the HMCS Preserver (currently docked for maintenance)

Don't worry lefties its been taken care of.