[Newsbot]

Title: Bikers take noise test before fines kick in
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: wildrosegirl
Date: 2010-06-20 11:15:48
Canadian

[gonavy47]

Hamilton, Ontario, please take note! I'm tired of having my windows rattled.

[andyt]

Good for Edmonchuck. Wish we had something similar for our small penis crowd in Vancouver.

[ASLplease]

will the same noise levels apply to dump trucks, industrial vehicles, and city buses?


further more, will the neioghborhood icecreaman have to by a special permit for his music?

how about my neighbors lawnmower?my lawn mower is a 4 stroke honda, but his is a briggs and straton with a rusted out muffler.

what about the annoying punks with subwoofers?

[BartSimpson]

Good. Nice to see someone telling the Harley crowd that the rest of us don't need to hear them compensate for their shortcomings.

[ASLplease]

calgary has a whole bunch of 1 ton deisel powered pickup trucks that are noisier at red lights than a harley is.

many of those bumbble bee sports cars are sporting exhaust pipes that are the diameter of coffee cans, the fart and rumbble pretty loud too

[bootlegga]

ASLplease ASLplease:

will the same noise levels apply to dump trucks, industrial vehicles, and city buses?


further more, will the neioghborhood icecreaman have to by a special permit for his music?

how about my neighbors lawnmower?my lawn mower is a 4 stroke honda, but his is a briggs and straton with a rusted out muffler.

what about the annoying punks with subwoofers?

ASLplease ASLplease:

calgary has a whole bunch of 1 ton deisel powered pickup trucks that are noisier at red lights than a harley is.

many of those bumbble bee sports cars are sporting exhaust pipes that are the diameter of coffee cans, the fart and rumbble pretty loud too

The City plans on testing all vehicles on the road that are overly loud, they just don't have the necessary guidelines yet. This is just the start...

$1:

Coun. Dave Thiele called the bylaw "discriminatory" and said council would never treat the members of an ethnic group the way they were treating bikers.

Thiele introduced an amendment that would have broadened the bylaw to include all motor vehicles. The amendment, though, failed after Theuser told council the changes would be unenforceable.

Theuser said it took three years to develop standards and equipment aimed specifically at motorcycles. He expects it will take another five to six years to do the same for cars and trucks.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/technolo ... story.html

[ASLplease]

well, not good enough! my hatred for loud vehicles doesnt rest on Harleys alone.
I hated azzholes that are too cheap to buy another muffler for their 20 year old Saab

[martin14]

$1:

Coun. Dave Thiele called the bylaw "discriminatory" and said council would never treat the members of an ethnic group the way they were treating bikers.

copied and sent along, you can be sure this one will be tried.

[Zipperfish]

Bring on the nanny state.

[andyt]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Bring on the nanny state.

You sure are on about the nanny state. This is not a case of the state trying to protect people from themselves, but trying to protect the rest us from aural assault. I agree with ASL that they should test all vehicles and other noise makers. Noise is very damaging to people in the long run. One reason it's so nice to go to the back country - just to hear what silence sounds like, what a diff it makes to your state of mind. I guess for the younger people all this is no concern, since they're blasting out their ear drums with their pods anyway. Tho maybe it's an attempt at dealing with noise with some that's perceived to be more pleasant. Creating a generation of pod people.

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Bring on the nanny state.

No one is restricting the motorcycle, just the noise it makes. I would not complain if some kind politician required me to silence my .45

[Zipperfish]

andyt andyt:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Bring on the nanny state.

You sure are on about the nanny state. This is not a case of the state trying to protect people from themselves, but trying to protect the rest us from aural assault. I agree with ASL that they should test all vehicles and other noise makers. Noise is very damaging to people in the long run. One reason it's so nice to go to the back country - just to hear what silence sounds like, what a diff it makes to your state of mind. I guess for the younger people all this is no concern, since they're blasting out their ear drums with their pods anyway. Tho maybe it's an attempt at dealing with noise with some that's perceived to be more pleasant. Creating a generation of pod people.

Yes I am on about the nanny state. I see it as an modern trend. These notions that (a) the government must keep us safe, even if it safe from ourselves (and the insidious corollary of that being that voluntary personal risk is unacceptable) and (b) that we have some constitutional right not be inconvenienced by the actions of others.

The government, of course, is always more than willing to step up to the plate and create new laws, new regulations, new bureaucracies and new taxes.

There's just too mnay folks out there right now who disapprove of much and are active in trying to get their disapproval codified into law.

I don't ride myself. I've never minded the loud pipes, because it's a transitory inconvenience and, when I'm driving, it tells me I might have a motorbike in my blind spot.

[andyt]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Yes I am on about the nanny state. I see it as an modern trend. These notions that (a) the government must keep us safe, even if it safe from ourselves (and the insidious corollary of that being that voluntary personal risk is unacceptable) and (b) that we have some constitutional right not be inconvenienced by the actions of others.

The government, of course, is always more than willing to step up to the plate and create new laws, new regulations, new bureaucracies and new taxes.

There's just too mnay folks out there right now who disapprove of much and are active in trying to get their disapproval codified into law.

Maybe so, but this is about keeping society civil. It's the same as a noise bylaw for loud parties etc, no lawnmowers at certain hours, etc. Do you really think those are a bad idea? You have no problem with gratuitous noise?

[Zipperfish]

andyt andyt:

Maybe so, but this is about keeping society civil. It's the same as a noise bylaw for loud parties etc, no lawnmowers at certain hours, etc. Do you really think those are a bad idea? You have no problem with gratuitous noise?

To me, it's inconvenience versus harm. If my neighbour blasts his tunes all night, every night, then I can't sleep and I have a hard time making it through work the next day. That's harm. If buddy in the cubicle next to me at work smokes two packs a day, that's a measurable dose of second-hand smoke he's sending my way. That's harm.

Being subjected to 60 seconds of bone-rattling Harley revving is an inconvenience, not a harm, in my books. Walking by a guy who exhales smoke is inconvenient, not a harm. In neither case do I support legislation.

To me, if thery're passsing laws like this, it tells me that the bureacracies aren't busy enough with real work.

I'm all for a civil society. But I don't think good manners should be legislated.