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Title: Canada least corrupt in the Americas: Report
Category: World
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2009-11-17 19:06:25
Canadian

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[GreenTiger]

MR_Canada's position is essentially correct. THe Canadians keep a close watch on money transfers.

[whiskeyjack]

lets keep it up

[GreenTiger]

I keep having this dream that one day Canada announces that it has annexed the Unied States after all they could have HAwaii, Miami Beach and New York, the already know what to do with the White House; but the rest of the states wouldn't be worth the trouble.

[Akhenaten]

I would wager that it's not by much. I would also wager there's a whole bunch of stuff that has to be ignored before that statement can really be made (reservations - biker gangs - Montreal mafia - tax frauds).

[commanderkai]

I'm not sure why this is something surprising, to be honest. The Western hemisphere, outside of the United States, isn't exactly paradise. Cuba, Mexico, Haiti, Colombia, etc.

[BeaverFever]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

I would wager that it's not by much. I would also wager there's a whole bunch of stuff that has to be ignored before that statement can really be made (reservations - biker gangs - Montreal mafia - tax frauds).

Nah, there are Governors, Congressmen and other officials getting caught almost EVERY YEAR in the US taking bribes. In Canada the worst you hear about is patronage and maybe misappropriation but I cant think of one case where a politician or ranking public official got caught with a freezer full of money.

[Lemmy]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

but I cant think of one case where a politician or ranking public official got caught with a freezer full of money.

Except for Brian Mulroney, of course.

[Akhenaten]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

I would wager that it's not by much. I would also wager there's a whole bunch of stuff that has to be ignored before that statement can really be made (reservations - biker gangs - Montreal mafia - tax frauds).

Nah, there are Governors, Congressmen and other officials getting caught almost EVERY YEAR in the US taking bribes. In Canada the worst you hear about is patronage and maybe misappropriation but I cant think of one case where a politician or ranking public official got caught with a freezer full of money.

You have a point.

[BartSimpson]

IMHO, Canadian politicians are MORE corrupt but are much better at covering their tracks than their American counterparts.

Seriously, ADSCAM being a good example of how the courts colluded with your politicians to silence public discussion of the issue. Such a thing is unheard of in the USA and no judge in their right mind would dare consider prohibiting public discussion of an inquiry by parties not directly involved in the inquiry.

Economist Daron Acemoglu of MIT has posted research for peer review on how transparency in government leads to higher per capita GDP and while Canada ranks high on his assessment, the US ranks higher in governmental transparency and Singapore ranks highest of all.

Higher levels of transparency lead to higher levels of reported misconduct than you would find in governments with less transparency. The US, then, has much more *reported* corruption than, say, North Korea, but that does not mean North Korea is somehow less corrupt, it just means they don't report it.

Given that it is easier to suppress information in Canada then it is in the USA this tends to follow.

[sandorski]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

IMHO, Canadian politicians are MORE corrupt but are much better at covering their tracks than their American counterparts.

Seriously, ADSCAM being a good example of how the courts colluded with your politicians to silence public discussion of the issue. Such a thing is unheard of in the USA and no judge in their right mind would dare consider prohibiting public discussion of an inquiry by parties not directly involved in the inquiry.

Economist Daron Acemoglu of MIT has posted research for peer review on how transparency in government leads to higher per capita GDP and while Canada ranks high on his assessment, the US ranks higher in governmental transparency and Singapore ranks highest of all.

Higher levels of transparency lead to higher levels of reported misconduct than you would find in governments with less transparency. The US, then, has much more *reported* corruption than, say, North Korea, but that does not mean North Korea is somehow less corrupt, it just means they don't report it.

Given that it is easier to suppress information in Canada then it is in the USA this tends to follow.

I disagree completely. Corruption in the US is simply out in the Open and nobody cares enough to Call it Corruption. "Lobbying" as it is in the US is just one huge operation of Open Corruption that is not tolerated in Canada. That in itself dwarfs the amount of Corruption in Canada.

[Smacle]

We're just better at hiding it.

[Smacle]

This hasn't been reported yet.

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