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Title: Standing for anthem not mandatory in N.B. schools
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2009-11-12 19:06:40
Canadian

[GreenTiger]

WE've got the same kind of nonesense going on in the states. It makes me sick.

Standing should be required, knowing you national anthem should be required. PC will kill us all.

[Brenda]

Well, I am sorry, but that happens when you make something not special anymore by doing it every day. People stop caring.

[gigs]

Brenda Brenda:

Well, I am sorry, but that happens when you make something not special anymore by doing it every day. People stop caring.

oh for Christ sake if it's being played the least you can do is fucking stand up and quit playing with your fucking game boy!
pardon the language

[Brenda]

gigs gigs:

Brenda Brenda:

Well, I am sorry, but that happens when you make something not special anymore by doing it every day. People stop caring.

oh for Christ sake if it's being played the least you can do is fucking stand up and quit playing with your fucking game boy!
pardon the language

Oh, I agree with you, but I am not 16...


It's like sex in a marriage... Just another chore

[Strutz]

$1:

"And I said to them, 'This is our country … People have died for us to live here in the capacity that we do.' And so they said, 'Well it's been so long that we've been told that we don't have to stand, so I don't want to get up'."

A few years ago, on Remembrance Day, a local newscast did a story on retailers taking advantage of this day and having "Remembrance Day Sales". A reporter was talking to people shopping in a local mall and one interview I remember was with a teenage girl. When asked what the day meant to her she replied "it's a day off school to go shopping". When asked about those who sacrificed their lives she replied "oh...that all happened so long ago..."

This lack of respect in this article also reminds me of the morons who attend sports games, who, while the anthem is playing continue on looking for their seats. Just stand still for a couple of freaking minutes! The game is not going to start until AFTER the anthem is sung you idiot! You will have a few minutes to look for your freaking seat. And no, I am not going to let you by in MY row while I am standing and singing along.

Show some damn respect even if the words upset you for some stupid reason. Personally, I think if our national anthem offends you then you live in the wrong damn country. Go away.

[martin14]

Brenda Brenda:

Well, I am sorry, but that happens when you make something not special anymore by doing it every day. People stop caring.

I disagree, I think it was the schools reversal of policy
of not playing it everyday, and not forcing the kids to stand.

$1:

And so they said, 'Well it's been so long that we've been told that we don't have to stand, so I don't want to get up'."

kinda says it all right there.



That kid can be happy I wasn't teaching him, I would have
booted the chair right out from under his fat ass if he had said that to me.

[Patish]

Only dinos like us know what to do when the Anthem is playing. If kids have no respect for their country, what will be further ?

Brenda Brenda:

It's like sex in a marriage... Just another chore

Sorry, can't resist.
Changing the position , would be a good idea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sex_positions

[Smacle]

"And I said to them, 'This is our country … People have died for us to live here in the capacity that we do.'

If someone wants to be a dick face and not show any respect for the national anthem, that's OK with me. I don't care what people do with their freedom, as long as they aren't hurting anyone.

It's like Afghanistan, people want to bring "freedom" to the country but they want to have veto power over the laws. Fuck off you socialists.

[gonavy47]

It should be manditory to stand. Why are kids allowed to have cell phones in class? The sacrifice of our fighting forces needs to be taught in school. It is not. Kids these days don't know anything about our veterans' sacrifices on their behalf. Maybe they can make room in the curiculum for that.

[MacDonaill]

It's just another manifestation of the complete lack of discipline in public schools. No discipline and no respect.

It took me a long time to understand, especially when I was of that age, that schools have rules and they must be followed unless they are truly immoral. For quite some time now, the situation in public schools has been degenerating because the teachers and the school administration have so little authority over the students. This is the fault of the baby-boomers, as most things today are.

The boomers remembered being smacked upside the head a few times by Sister Mary-Margaret (probably for being an insolent little bastard), and so when they grew up, they decided that children didn't need to fear and respect the same institutions they once had to. Hence today, most public schools are a nightmare. I once saw a W5 report about this as well and was downright shocked at some of the horror stories recounted.

I don't think teachers should be tyrants or abuse their authority either, but that doesn't go as far as to say that they should have to authority whatsoever. Now it's the kids who know damn well they can do pretty much anything they want and the school can do nothing about it.

Most disruptors can be fixed pretty damn quick with a quick smack upside the head, like it or not, and if the students knew that was what was waiting for them for being disruptive, agressive etc... then they would think twice.

[Zipperfish]

Why do these things always crawl out of the woirk on Remembrance Day? They don't need to be playing the anthem every damn day. It doesn't mean anything when they do that.

And no, MacDonnail, I don't think a return to the days of beating kids is necessarily the way to go.

[Choban]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Why do these things always crawl out of the woirk on Remembrance Day? They don't need to be playing the anthem every damn day. It doesn't mean anything when they do that.

And no, MacDonnail, I don't think a return to the days of beating kids is necessarily the way to go.

I don't know about beating them, but he's right in a way, In less than 30 years we went from a system where teachers were allowed and did use the strap to the point now where they dare not even talk strongly to a kid for fear of law suits or losing their jobs.
My generation of parents (I'm 32 with 2 kids) are a product of the daycare generation, the majority of us taught and brought up in a system that more and more is expected to teach kids EVERYTHING from Sex Ed to Morals but not allowed to mention God or hold kids responsable for their own actions.
Parents these days expect way too much of the system and cry foul when anything goes wrong and of course said system will pander to the demands of the few.

[Zipperfish]

Choban Choban:

I don't know about beating them, but he's right in a way, In less than 30 years we went from a system where teachers were allowed and did use the strap to the point now where they dare not even talk strongly to a kid for fear of law suits or losing their jobs.
My generation of parents (I'm 32 with 2 kids) are a product of the daycare generation, the majority of us taught and brought up in a system that more and more is expected to teach kids EVERYTHING from Sex Ed to Morals but not allowed to mention God or hold kids responsable for their own actions.
Parents these days expect way too much of the system and cry foul when anything goes wrong and of course said system will pander to the demands of the few.

No argument from me. Bringing up my kids is my responsibility--not the school's. They have no end of retarded rules at the schools, but at least they don't hit my kids. I can teach them where (I think) the schools are wrong, but I can't undo the harm that grown-ups hitting kids does.

[Choban]

Zipper, at least you take the time and make the effort to educate your kids on issues the schools lack, I do as well and I know of alot of parents that don't.
Having said that, my parents faced the strap in school as did their parents before them. I got a swat from my folks when I did wrong (though I had to cross a pretty long line before it happened). Theres nothing wrong with me or my folks.
I don't hit my kid, personally I've never found it nessesary not that he's an angel. (my wife doesn't believe in it either, though she was beat as a child)
BUUUUT, there are kids I know personally, that if they were mine, they certainly would have received a smack on the ass for their behavior.