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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:45 pm
Let me get this straight, the guy is a convicted terrorist. Now his cousin wants Canada to cut off aid to MILLIONS of staving people so that a terrorist can go free?
We have enough trash in this country we do not need to bring more in.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:10 pm
and why was he there? I am starting to get sick of all these "citizens" that live in other countries, until something happens, then they come crying back to Canada "please save Me!"
its happening more and more all the time
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Posts: 1098
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:43 pm
The problem is not in Canada, it's in Ethiopia. If he wants to do something constructive he should go over there and try to get him released. In the very unlikely event his suit succeeds (about two years from now) there is no guarantee at all that Ethiopia would release him.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:54 pm
Again, I have to say.. China convicted the Dalai Lama of terrorism. South Africa convicted Nelson Mandela of terrorism. Ethiopa convicted this man of terrorism.
What did he do? Nobody knows anything.
Don't condemn someone because a third world country says he's a terrorist.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:10 pm
Curtman Curtman: Again, I have to say.. China convicted the Dalai Lama of terrorism. South Africa convicted Nelson Mandela of terrorism. Ethiopa convicted this man of terrorism.
What did he do? Nobody knows anything.
Don't condemn someone because a third world country says he's a terrorist. I think you could amend that to "Don't condemn someone because a country says he's a terrorist". Happens in Europe and North America as well.
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Posts: 15681
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:15 pm
He's Canadian? From the article it says he was a Somali or Ethiopian, hard to tell really. Oh, ok, I forgot, all anybody has to do is be here 3 years, pass a really easy multi-guess tick-test and they are Canadian! Wow, easy or what? Then once you have the rather nice blue passport, you can go back to where you came from, do all kindsa stuff and when you get locked up back in your place of birth for breaking the laws you were well aware of ('cos you were born there), you can demand that Canada helps you.
What a great system and what a huge contribution to Canada some of our new 'Canadians' are making.
Reminds me of all those proud and patriotic Lebanese-'Canadians' demanding Canada evacuate them from their homes in Beruit a couple of years ago.
Good stuff.
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ridenrain
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Posts: 22594
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:19 pm
Another example of how stupidity and greed killed our immigration policy.
"Can you mark an X beside the Liberal name, or are you a romanian stripper? Then you're just the sort of person we're looking for. "
Makes me proud of my fellow Canadians every time I hear about one of these folks.
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:46 am
EyeBrock EyeBrock: He's Canadian? That's right. Doesn't have citizenship in any other country. Change the rules if you see fit, but he's already been made a Canadian, and no other country can do a thing for him.
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Posts: 2398
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:15 am
Last time I looked the courts cannot interfere in government policy, therefore the courts cannot order the government to amend, halt, increase or decrease financial aid to another country as this would be the courts attempting to set government policy. Therefore the suit should be immediately thrown out as the court has no jurisdiction. $1: Makhtal was born in Ethiopia in 1969 and settled in Canada as a refugee. He left Canada in 2006 and settled in Kenya. Oh goody, another Canadian of convenience. If he wants to go live in the asshole of the planet then he shouldn't come crying to us because he's now covered in shit.
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Posts: 15681
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:28 am
Curtman Curtman: EyeBrock EyeBrock: He's Canadian? That's right. Doesn't have citizenship in any other country. Change the rules if you see fit, but he's already been made a Canadian, and no other country can do a thing for him. Well then the system is wrong. He's a plastic Canadian that was born somewhere else, got his citizenship through our ridiculously easy system that asks for zero commitment to Canada, then left and went back to his country of birth, got arrested and screams for Canada to help him. And you think that's ok? I think I know a little bit more about the immigration system than you do, but you may know more about baseball hats than me.
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:22 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock: He's a plastic Canadian that was born somewhere else, got his citizenship through our ridiculously easy system that asks for zero commitment to Canada, then left and went back to his country of birth, got arrested and screams for Canada to help him.
And you think that's ok? Regardless of how the system allowed him to become a citizen, how do you propose we deal with the current Canadian citizens? You feel that basically any Canadian who leaves our soil is on his own? Or somehow we'll pick and choose which ones to help?
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:15 pm
That's the thing.. these Liberals won't pass judgement on these people.
Chretien went to Pakistan to get Kahdr Sgro was letting in strippers and prostitutes for her biker friends Ahmed Ressam (The millenium bomber) was let in Most of the Air India bombers were let in Sihk sepratists were let in Tamil Tigers were let in Hong Kong and Chinese triad gangs were let in by the bushel
The list goes on and on..
All that was expected was if these folks could vote Liberal.
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Posts: 15681
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:16 pm
No, I think we need to tighten up the requirements for citizenship.
The current requirements are way too low. We need to encourage loyalty and citizenship by extending the residency period and making the citizenship test an actual test that people need to study for, instead of the joke tick test we have now.
The plastic Canadians that already have a nice blue passport, well it's too late for us to do something about them.
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:25 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock: No, I think we need to tighten up the requirements for citizenship.
The current requirements are way too low. We need to encourage loyalty and citizenship by extending the residency period and making the citizenship test an actual test that people need to study for, instead of the joke tick test we have now.
The plastic Canadians that already have a nice blue passport, well it's too late for us to do something about them. Too late? If we were to tighten up the requirements in 2010, are you saying that only people who became a citizen after 2010 are eligible to have the government seek clemency for them?
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