[Newsbot]

Title: Smuggled U.S. guns responsible for most Canadian armed crime: report
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: uwish
Date: 2009-07-29 11:56:04
Canadian

[ridenrain]

While I agree with the results, Wendy Cukier has zero credability. She's President and co-founder of the Coalition for Gun Control and on the Board of the International Action Network on Small Arms. She definately has an axe to grind on this one and I wouldn't trust het to say the sun comes up every morning.
While this shows that the gun registry has little or no effect on gun crime, Wendy won't talk out against it because any step to eliminating all guns is her purpose. This is simply a rationalization to support the UN version of the registry.

[Choban]

Well said Rain, and I don't believe anyone would be surprised with the restuls from any source on this issue.

[ridenrain]

Someone made the comment that she'd be just another secretary if she didn't push this cause.

[OldChum]

Just recently their was a student here in Manitoba arrested for smuggling guns into Canada . He was taking drugs back into the states , as he was a student down there. This is a problem and it needs to be addressed the gun registry is not it though.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

While I agree with the results, Wendy Cukier has zero credability. She's President and co-founder of the Coalition for Gun Control and on the Board of the International Action Network on Small Arms. She definately has an axe to grind on this one and I wouldn't trust het to say the sun comes up every morning.
While this shows that the gun registry has little or no effect on gun crime, Wendy won't talk out against it because any step to eliminating all guns is her purpose. This is simply a rationalization to support the UN version of the registry.

No different then the anti-drug crew and their agenda. We can't legalize drugs because of the US factor and we can't ban guns because of the US factor.

Illegality and jail times have the same non effect on drugs (and guns for that matter) as do registries have on guns. At least a registry isn't a ban.

[Akhenaten]

A very long time ago someone should've grabbed this problem by the horns and made for a deal with the US: We'll get serious about stopping pot at the border and you get serious about stopping guns at the border.

[DerbyX]

I say we trade fairly. They sell us guns at a good rate and we'll sell them pot at a good rate and eliminate the criminal element inherent to both as much as we can.

[ASLplease]

Hunters with longguns that refuse to register still aren't the problem. I'll note that Wendy Cuckier didn't include that in her statement.

[stemmer]

Why blame the Americans? Place the blame on those that use guns to commit crimes. Farmers, collectors, sportsman and hunters are not the problem....

[Praxius]

OldChum OldChum:

Just recently their was a student here in Manitoba arrested for smuggling guns into Canada . He was taking drugs back into the states , as he was a student down there. This is a problem and it needs to be addressed the gun registry is not it though.

lol... indeed... we keep complaining about the US smuggling guns into our country, yet the US keeps complaining about us smuggling X, Pot and other drugs into their country.

Sorta cancels each other out I suppose.

[DrCaleb]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

A very long time ago someone should've grabbed this problem by the horns and made for a deal with the US: We'll get serious about stopping pot at the border and you get serious about stopping guns at the border.

That is backwards. Nether country cares what leaves their borders, only what enters. So, we should get tough on the guns, they get tough on the drugs.

[ridenrain]

Countries all over the world are filled with things we don't want in Canada. It's not the duty of foreigners to protect us but our own border services.

Scrap the registry and put the money into building prisons where we can put firearm law violators.

[Akhenaten]

$1:

That is backwards. Nether country cares what leaves their borders, only what enters. So, we should get tough on the guns, they get tough on the drugs.

I don't think there's anything wrong with cooperation on mutual border security concerns.

[bootlegga]

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

While I agree with the results, Wendy Cukier has zero credability. She's President and co-founder of the Coalition for Gun Control and on the Board of the International Action Network on Small Arms. She definately has an axe to grind on this one and I wouldn't trust het to say the sun comes up every morning.
While this shows that the gun registry has little or no effect on gun crime, Wendy won't talk out against it because any step to eliminating all guns is her purpose. This is simply a rationalization to support the UN version of the registry.

No different then the anti-drug crew and their agenda. We can't legalize drugs because of the US factor and we can't ban guns because of the US factor.

Illegality and jail times have the same non effect on drugs (and guns for that matter) as do registries have on guns. At least a registry isn't a ban.

I'll give a damn about drugs going into the US when they give a damn about all the firearms they ship up here.