[Newsbot]

Title: Ottawa digging a $172-billion hole in deficits, TD Bank says
Category: Political
Posted By: bootlegga
Date: 2009-06-02 14:09:33
Canadian

[kenmore]

Welcome to tory economic planning... debt debt and more debt. but hey bail out big business and screw the middle class. so if you still have a job when they are gone..you will pay pay pay for the next 100 yrs..

[RUEZ]

I think this was the coalition economic plan.

[kenmore]

RUEZ RUEZ:

I think this was the coalition economic plan.

nice try there ruez.. this is a result of and only of the "flawherty and harper " mismanagement of the public fund.. get your head out of your ass and admit blame where it is! THE TORYS

[RUEZ]

kenmore kenmore:

RUEZ RUEZ:

I think this was the coalition economic plan.

nice try there ruez.. this is a result of and only of the "flawherty and harper " mismanagement of the public fund.. get your head out of your ass and admit blame where it is! THE TORYS

What a mature debater you are. You are a credit to your party. Never the less the coalition threatened to bring down the government if they didn't open up the taps of spending. So they did. You can't have it both ways. You can't blackmail the government and then cry like a baby when they do what you ask.

[Canadian_Mind]

What I noticed was that 5 years ago the cons were blaming everything on the liberals, just as the libs ar eblaming everything on the cons now.

The reason the conservatives planned 36 billion deficit was because fo the coalition, we have everyone to blame for that.

However, the majority of the cost overruns, especially if it balloons to 85 billion, is soley the tories. The 36 billion was supposed to e the deficit in the worst situation imaginable. Either flaherty doesn't have a big imagination to anticipate what could happen, or he couldn't put 2 and 2 together to get 4, insted he got 3.6.

If nothing else to save face I would have thought the conservatives would fire that minister.

regardless, they kept none of the promises I voted for, plus this latest fuck up, so I hope there is an election soon. The Libs become more and more appealing again every day.

[Proculation]

The problem is that we have no alternative. The liberals will do pretty much the same thing (just look at EI) and I cannot think what would happen with the NDP. We are screwed.

[RUEZ]

Proculation Proculation:

The problem is that we have no alternative. The liberals will do pretty much the same thing (just look at EI) and I cannot think what would happen with the NDP. We are screwed.

You nailed it. Anyone that thinks the Liberals will do any different is drinking heavily. Let's not forget they want the government to make EI even easier to get. That costs money.

[Canadian_Mind]

bingo

[DerbyX]

Proculation Proculation:

The problem is that we have no alternative. The liberals will do pretty much the same thing (just look at EI) and I cannot think what would happen with the NDP. We are screwed.

No they wouldn't have. Thats simply conjecture. The partisan cons are the ones attacking both the libs and NDP by the very method they would have avoided a massive deficit, taxes. A carbon tax, GST hike, corporate tax increase. All were put forth as methods to spend yet avoid a massive deficit.

Every time the cons screw up they say "ya but the Libs would have done the same". Why is it then that the Liberals can't point to the Cons and say that everything they did post 93 the cons would have?

If you want to blame the Liberals/NDP for this massive deficit instead of the true culprits then by all means let Harper and the CPC stand aside and allow them to govern so you can blame them properly.

The fact is that Harper and Harper alone is responsible for the budget he put together just as the Libs were. Anybody saying otherwise is simply deluding themselves.

[RUEZ]

DerbyX DerbyX:

The fact is that Harper and Harper alone is responsible for the budget he put together just as the Libs were. Anybody saying otherwise is simply lying.

Why is there no coalition government?

[DerbyX]

RUEZ RUEZ:

DerbyX DerbyX:

The fact is that Harper and Harper alone is responsible for the budget he put together just as the Libs were. Anybody saying otherwise is simply lying.

Why is there no coalition government?

Irrelevant. I've already explained that the coalition had tax measures in place to avoid a massive deficit. They would have also approached any bailouts differently due to the NDP factor.

All it amounts to is Harper reneged entirely on his no deficit promise and handed in the biggest red ink budget of all time and the only left for the partisan right wingers who consider themselves as the natural economic governing party is to codify themselves with the false belief that everybody else would have done it also.

[EyeBrock]

Ruez, we have no alternative to lying Libs or lying Tories. The political landscape in Canada at this moment is shite.

I really like having derby on ignore. It's like nextdoors leaf-blower is silenced.

[Proculation]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Proculation Proculation:

The problem is that we have no alternative. The liberals will do pretty much the same thing (just look at EI) and I cannot think what would happen with the NDP. We are screwed.

No they wouldn't have. Thats simply conjecture. The partisan cons are the ones attacking both the libs and NDP by the very method they would have avoided a massive deficit, taxes. A carbon tax, GST hike, corporate tax increase. All were put forth as methods to spend yet avoid a massive deficit.

Every time the cons screw up they say "ya but the Libs would have done the same". Why is it then that the Liberals can't point to the Cons and say that everything they did post 93 the cons would have?

If you want to blame the Liberals/NDP for this massive deficit instead of the true culprits then by all means let Harper and the CPC stand aside and allow them to govern so you can blame them properly.

The fact is that Harper and Harper alone is responsible for the budget he put together just as the Libs were. Anybody saying otherwise is simply deluding themselves.

Don't get me wrong: I know Harper is responsible. What I say is that we don't have a fiscally responsible party that the conservative party was supposed to be.

[RUEZ]

Ya that's what you want when thousands of people are losing their jobs, more taxes. Why not run a deficit when you have to until the country is back on it's feet and people can afford to pay more to pay off the debt?