[Newsbot]

Title: Quebec moving towards opening safe-injection sites
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: WDHIII
Date: 2008-07-17 08:15:18
Canadian

[CanAm1]

IDIOTS! Open a government funded site to make sure that junkies can take illegal drugs. Now that is an oxy moron for sure. What is my country becoming?
These drugs aren't legal can they not see the court cases arising from this. Wait till one of the families sues them for accidentally killing little johnny drug user.

[acidcomplex]

I so agree this is the stupiest idea.

Dont see any weed smoking facilites kicking around. Here druggies have a nice warm place to do drugs,

"Oh but the get help to go to the programs". Yeah if they were really serious about going they could have done so along time ago.

Leave it up to Quebec and Vancouver to come up with such a stupid idea

[Wally_Sconce]

what pisses me off the most, is Alberta's equalization payment will be paying for this. I agree with equalization payments, but does it have to mean that we pay the price for PQ's stupidity?

[kenmore]

Actually its a good idea.. it brings addicts to a safe place and they can dispose of their used needles safely .. it also puts them in touch with health care providers who can help with rehab if they wantit.. it is not a waste of money .. there should be more of these clinics in large cities.. remember addiction is an illness just like any other.. we pay every day for the results of smokers who need cancer treatments.. same thing...

[Wally_Sconce]

most canadians agree that drugs and drug abuse are at the top of the list of concerns for anyone that is concerned about the crime rates in their neighborhood.

throw the f#cking addicts, and pushers into jail. Society would be better off without them.

[kenmore]

Jailing addicts is not the answer.. it costs more than these safe injection sites and it doesn't help them either.. pushers yes I agree... long terms and heavy fines with no out until time is done.. there are many addicts who are holding good jobs and working but are still addicted.. these people need to be helped and injection centres are a door to this help...

[Wally_Sconce]

I'm not looking for answers for addicts. I'm looking for ways to improve the neighborhood. we need to throw out the trash.

[sandorski]

Good for them. Soon they'll open nationwide and we can stop the stupidity of the proven past failed policies.

[romanP]

CanAm1 CanAm1:

IDIOTS! Open a government funded site to make sure that junkies can take illegal drugs.

So what if they're illegal? Do you have any better reason for this to not exist than the law?

$1:

Now that is an oxy moron for sure. What is my country becoming?

A country that cares about trying to treat addiction and reducing suffering for addicts. If the first thing we can't admit about drug addicts is that they will continue to need the drugs they're addicted to while they're becoming unaddicted to them, then there is little hope for their treatment.

$1:

These drugs aren't legal can they not see the court cases arising from this. Wait till one of the families sues them for accidentally killing little johnny drug user.

Not one person has died at the Insite clinic in Vancouver, a city that has a reputation for its heroin addicts. Do you have some other safe injection site statistics that counter this? Oh, wait.. there aren't any others in Canada yet!

[romanP]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

Dont see any weed smoking facilites kicking around.

Weed isn't addictive.

$1:

Here druggies have a nice warm place to do drugs,

They are not proposing a drug den, they are proposing a safe, clean place for addicts to get their fix, which can drastically cut down on infection rates, has shown to successfully get at least some people off the drugs they're injecting, and has not increased the crime rate.

$1:

"Oh but the get help to go to the programs". Yeah if they were really serious about going they could have done so along time ago.

Why does it matter when someone decides to recover from an addiction? Is there a time limit now?

$1:

Leave it up to Quebec and Vancouver to come up with such a stupid idea

It's only stupid because you fail to understand the ethical and moral grounds you base your own arguments on.

[romanP]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

most canadians agree that drugs and drug abuse are at the top of the list of concerns for anyone that is concerned about the crime rates in their neighborhood.

throw the f#cking addicts, and pushers into jail. Society would be better off without them.

I disagree. Society would be better off without incompassionate morons like yourself who think people are not people just because they got into a situation that caused them to make a bad choice.

I can't believe we have to have this same stupid argument all over again because some people are just too fickle and thickheaded and refuse to learn about anything if the law declares it bad. Here's some news for you: the law is not always right. In fact, the law can be utterly, maddeningly wrong. In the case of safe injection sites, some people consider it more important to follow the rule of law than to help people who can barely help themselves. Such people have fucked up priorities, and have an addiction of their own - an addiction to authority without reason.

[ridenrain]

Boo hoo boo. I'm a drunk. Will the state buy me some nice Irish whisky?

It's not working in BC so I guess we better share the experience.
Vanouver leads the country and is very close for worst property crimes so addicts can make money to buy illegal drugs. Drug dealers now have a steady and state sponsored market for their illegal product.

[herbie]

So sell it to them. We could buy all the opium in Afghanistan for half what we spend playing 'war'. Give it to the junkies and they won't have to steal.
Unless it's to pay RENT in the Vancouver market!

[ridenrain]

Great.. Gordo brand dope. I guess it would come with a freak'n DVD of health warnings?