[Newsbot]

Title: Dion defends drug injection site
Category: Business
Posted By: mtbr
Date: 2008-05-24 06:12:12
Canadian

[tritium]

Great, tax payers dollars going straight into the arm of some two bit drug whore or junkie.

Great...

[romanP]

You can't be serious. You actually expect people around here to know what the hell they're talking about while doing so? What silliness!

[tritium]

lily lily:

Read up on the subject before you spout off.

Hold on Lily, simple question. The money for the drugs, where does it come from???

...are they pulling it out of Stéphane Dion ASS???

[Bodah]

lily lily:

Read up on the subject before you spout off.

I'll have to look into this further, but I believe Vacouver's Downtown Eastside has a serious HIV problem that grows exponentially year after year. So I'd rather see them spend the mony on rehab centres instead and not give them a safe place to shoot up, or give them needles that they end up sharing anyways.

[tritium]

Bodah Bodah:

lily lily:

Read up on the subject before you spout off.

I'll have to look into this further, but I believe Vacouver's Downtown Eastside has a serious HIV problem that grows exponentially year after year. So I'd rather see them spend the mony on rehab centres instead and not give them a safe place to shoot up, or give them needles that they end up sharing anyways.

Yeah, I'm all for rehab centres and more counselors, why perpetuate the problem by providing more drugs to a drug addict?

Like giving candy to a baby....

[DerbyX]

tritium tritium:

lily lily:

Read up on the subject before you spout off.

Hold on Lily, simple question. The money for the drugs, where does it come from???

...and they pulling it out of Stéphane Dion ASS???

If you actually read the article and/or understood the principle behind a safe-injection site you would have realized that all they do is provide clean needles and a clean area to shoot up in.

They aren't setting up a concession stand selling crack.

[tritium]

DerbyX DerbyX:

tritium tritium:

lily lily:

Read up on the subject before you spout off.

Hold on Lily, simple question. The money for the drugs, where does it come from???

...and they pulling it out of Stéphane Dion ASS???

If you actually read the article and/or understood the principle behind a safe-injection site you would have realized that all they do is provide clean needles and a clean area to shoot up in.

They aren't setting up a concession stand selling crack.

That is not this case with every site...

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national ... 50210.html

This is an old article, but a common solution in B.C., rather than solving the problem, they give out free drugs or the paraphernalia to use it.

Vancouver clinic offers free heroin

It's like giving a gun to a crimminal, just not loaded...

[tritium]

lily lily:

Educate yourselves.... please.

o.k. needles..

I was having a flash back to this..
http://www.missingpeople.net/safe_place ... ned_up.htm

[tritium]

lily lily:

You realize that link actually supports the safe injection sites?

...while supporting the allocation of free heroin.

Regardless, it comes back the my same question, drugs, paraphernalia, where is the money coming from to pay for these programs?? Taxpayers.

o.k. up side it "may" reduce AIDS and save Canadian's on medical costs. But I doubt it, very much.

I think the only solution is more rehab centers and trained professionals to deal with the problem.

Right now, safe injection sites are nothing but an expensive band-aid and not really dealing with the real underlying social problems.

This is a European style solution, if you can't beat them, might as well join them. French WWII

[DerbyX]

tritium tritium:

DerbyX DerbyX:

If you actually read the article and/or understood the principle behind a safe-injection site you would have realized that all they do is provide clean needles and a clean area to shoot up in.

They aren't setting up a concession stand selling crack.

That is not this case with every site...

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national ... 50210.html

This is an old article, but a common solution in B.C., rather than solving the problem, they give out free drugs or the paraphernalia to use it.

Vancouver clinic offers free heroin

It's like giving a gun to a crimminal, just not loaded...

That was a medical study examining ways to beat addiction. That is nowhere near what you seem to be impling.

This isn't a government dole project to help fund down on their luck addicts score some dope but a project designed to limit the spread of aids/hep by minimizing needle sharing.

Thats a responsible society in action.

[tritium]

lily lily:

What are you basing your opinions on, Tritium? It's certainly not actual research.

Let me get this straight though. You don't want safe injection sites because we as tax payers are funding them... but you think we should have more rehab centres with trained professionals... paid for by.... tax payers again?

$1:

Right now, safe injection sites are nothing but an expensive band-aid and not really deal with the real underlying social problems.

Who needs facts when you have an opinion, eh?

Aaaaagh!!! O.K.

There is a big difference between just supporting a habit and/or fixing the problem.

So you are saying just keep giving out free needles to drug addicts for the next 50 years. Safe injection sites need rental space and staff, same as rehab centers.

I am saying try to fix the problem as most drug addicts are on welfare, unemployed or commit crimes to feed their habbits.

I would rather spend tax dollars are fixing the addiction, trying to get the individual back into society, working, and of course paying taxes...

It's like a radiator hose with a leak, sure you can put duck tape on it, but later she's going to blow, you may be stranded on the side of the road, towing charges, time lost from work... whatever.

...or you can fix it right away, and get a few more good years out of your investment.

[tritium]

DerbyX DerbyX:

That was a medical study examining ways to beat addiction. That is nowhere near what you seem to be impling.

This isn't a government dole project to help fund down on their luck addicts score some dope but a project designed to limit the spread of aids/hep by minimizing needle sharing.

Thats a responsible society in action.

Not really arguing that it's BAD. I am saying I guess that I think there are better ways to spend tax dollars.

Hey but that's just my opinion.

Opinions are like assholes.. everybody's got one and they are all shitty.

[DerbyX]

tritium tritium:

DerbyX DerbyX:

That was a medical study examining ways to beat addiction. That is nowhere near what you seem to be impling.

This isn't a government dole project to help fund down on their luck addicts score some dope but a project designed to limit the spread of aids/hep by minimizing needle sharing.

Thats a responsible society in action.

Not really arguing that it's BAD. I am saying I guess that I think there are better ways to spend tax dollars.

Hey but that's just my opinion.

Opinions are like assholes.. everybody's got one and they are all shitty.

I think every single tax payer in the country can say that some portion of their tax dollars is going to something they despise.

Would you prefer a 16 page checklist for you to tick off every tax time detailing how you want your taxes spent?

[commanderkai]

DerbyX DerbyX:

I think every single tax payer in the country can say that some portion of their tax dollars is going to something they despise.

Would you prefer a 16 page checklist for you to tick off every tax time detailing how you want your taxes spent?

Honestly...that would be pretty cool. I know it'd probably be impossible, but it'd be a good indicator on what the people want/demand/desire instead of a few dumbasses in Ottawa/Toronto/Quebec City/Victoria/Regina/etc pretending they know what the people want.