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<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=33182" target="_blank">RCMP subdue hospitalized man, 82, with Taser</a> (click to view)

<strong>Category:</strong> <a href="/news/topic/18-law--order" target="_blank">Law & Order</a>
<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=Hyack" target="_blank">Hyack</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2008-05-08 22:52:48
<strong>Canadian</strong>

[RUEZ]

What did they do with elderly knife packers before tasers?

[martin14]

just shot them, i guess.

this is truly outrageous.. wtf are the cops doing these days ?

[Scape]

Maybe they confused arrest with cardiac arrest?

[sandorski]

Just take the Tazers from the Cops already. Retrain them, put in strict protocols, then give the Tazers back and see if they can control themselves. I generally have a positive view of the Police, but this is getting so ridiculous that my views are changing.

[Public_Domain]

[ttruscott]

Taser use to compel compliance is wrong but taser use to manage a life threatening situation
without deadly force is what it was designed for.

The problem is that a knife needs no power to kill someone. A solid touch can go to the bone,
cutting arteries and nerves that may never regenerate.

Flailing around with a knife is a deadly activity and no one should be asked to step into it to stop it.

I gave a blunt and dull kitchen paring knife to a small 20 something lady and had her 'stab' a leg of pork.
She not only easily stabbed through into the bone without any training but got it so deep she couldn't pull it back out.

If his delerium caused him to carry a knife, it may also have caused him to attack or flail at anyone who came near.

Bullet proof vests do not stop knives and an 80 year old invalid who started flailing around
in a delerium is a deadly threat.

He is sorry he was tasered but if he had killed someone or ruined their career or fulness of life permanently
by cutting him, he might just wish he could go back in time and and choose the taser if he could.

The important features about surviving a knife attack that I have found are summed up in:
Surviving A Street Knife Fight: Realistic Defensive Techniques A video review.

This is not about how to beat someone trying to kill you with a knife. It is about staying alive through such a horrible experience,

That it is an incredibly hard thing to do and movies and some ignorant or uncaring martial arts teachers
try to lure customers by making it sound so easy if you just buy their system.

Ted

[RUEZ]

At 82 you have to wonder if a taser is going to take this mans life. Luckily for him and for the Kamloops RCMP it didn't.

[ttruscott]

If we consider that a worst case scenario fantasy must include someone's death - whose should it be?

A doctor's? A nurse's? A cop's? His? His sister-in-law?

We can't make all our laws try to stop worst case scenario fantasies or we could never drive again...
car drivers kill more people everyday than cops or tasers do.

[ttruscott]

If we consider that a worst case scenario fantasy must include someone's death - whose should it be?

A doctor's? A nurse's? A cop's? His? His sister-in-law?

We can't make all our laws try to stop worst case scenario fantasies or we could never drive again...
car drivers kill more people everyday than cops or tasers do.

[RUEZ]

ttruscott ttruscott:

If we consider that a worst case scenario fantasy must include someone's death - whose should it be?

A doctor's? A nurse's? A cop's? His? His sister-in-law?

We can't make all our laws try to stop worst case scenario fantasies or we could never drive again...
car drivers kill more people everyday than cops or tasers do.

What are those batons they have for? Looks?

[Freakinoldguy]

Three times?????

It makes you wonder. Perhaps it's time to stop the political correctness and bring back realistic recruiting standards for the RCMP. You never heard about incidents like this years ago. A couple of burly mounties would have had Mr. Lasser on his ass so fast it would have made his head spin.

Now days it seems the mounties are afraid to use physical force and rely on things like tasers to do what was done handraulicly years ago.

[Thanos]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Now days it seems the mounties are afraid to use physical force and rely on things like tasers to do what was done handraulicly years ago.

That's because the same liberal lawyer jerks from 20 years ago who demonized the police for using batons are the same liberal lawyer jerks today who are demonizing the police for using Tasers.

My suggestion to the police forces would be for all of them to simultaneously take a month off of unpaid leave and, before they do so, make sure that everyone is well informed that they will not be responding to any calls whatsoever, no matter how severe or life-threatening the situation. After the 30 days of pure chaos and unrestricted criminality is completed, and the police come back to work, society can then sit down and collectively choose what is more important: respecting and not demonizing the police that protect all of us (including police-hating liberals) from savagery, or the liberal lawyer jerks who have deliberately gone out of their way to make this society a paradise for rampaging criminals.

[RUEZ]

Thanos Thanos:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Now days it seems the mounties are afraid to use physical force and rely on things like tasers to do what was done handraulicly years ago.

That's because the same liberal lawyer jerks from 20 years ago who demonized the police for using batons are the same liberal lawyer jerks today who are demonizing the police for using Tasers.

My suggestion to the police forces would be for all of them to simultaneously take a month off of unpaid leave and, before they do so, make sure that everyone is well informed that they will not be responding to any calls whatsoever, no matter how severe or life-threatening the situation. After the 30 days of pure chaos and unrestricted criminality is completed, and the police come back to work, society can then sit down and collectively choose what is more important: respecting and not demonizing the police that protect all of us (including police-hating liberals) from savagery, or the liberal lawyer jerks who have deliberately gone out of their way to make this society a paradise for rampaging criminals.

So you're saying people should just STFU and let the police do as they please? Since the police in this country are as human as you and I, even they need to be disciplined and reigned in at times. It doesn't mean we don't appreciate them even if we have to slap their pee pee's sometimes.

[Thanos]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Thanos Thanos:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Now days it seems the mounties are afraid to use physical force and rely on things like tasers to do what was done handraulicly years ago.

That's because the same liberal lawyer jerks from 20 years ago who demonized the police for using batons are the same liberal lawyer jerks today who are demonizing the police for using Tasers.

My suggestion to the police forces would be for all of them to simultaneously take a month off of unpaid leave and, before they do so, make sure that everyone is well informed that they will not be responding to any calls whatsoever, no matter how severe or life-threatening the situation. After the 30 days of pure chaos and unrestricted criminality is completed, and the police come back to work, society can then sit down and collectively choose what is more important: respecting and not demonizing the police that protect all of us (including police-hating liberals) from savagery, or the liberal lawyer jerks who have deliberately gone out of their way to make this society a paradise for rampaging criminals.

So you're saying people should just STFU and let the police do as they please? Since the police in this country are as human as you and I, even they need to be disciplined and reigned in at times. It doesn't mean we don't appreciate them even if we have to slap their pee pee's sometimes.

Busting bad or crooked cops is one thing, deliberately hamstringing entire police forces will lawsuits and red tape that prevent them from doing their job is something else altogether. Look up Jack Dunphy's archived columns on National Review Online for a description of the politically-correct chaos that's occuring in Los Angeles these days. Arrests are apparently down about 60% from a decade ago, but it's not because the city has gotten any safer. It's because the goddamn liberal-dominated LA city council has made the police so hesitant and frustrated about doing the job that the police have literally stopped busting criminal suspects for just about everything. Is that what we want to have happen in Canada thanks to a deranged elite of police-hating liberal lawyers?