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 Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:08 pm
<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=30516" target="_blank">Queen's role to be put to trial</a> (click to view)
<strong>Category:</strong> <a href="/news/topic/14-misc-cdn" target="_blank">Misc CDN</a>
<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=Hyack" target="_blank">Hyack</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2008-02-20 19:40:08
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:08 pm
What is some foreignn asshole in Trinidad (Canadian Passport or not) doing trying to shake things up and abuse the court system? This man was born in a Commonwealth Dominion, and he immmigrated to another one, and is now complaining about having to swear an oath to our Head of State? As far as I'm concerned, he swore an oath, and now he's breaking it. Take his passport back, and let him live in Trinidad (since that's where he's living now anyway).
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:12 am
About time somebody finally asked this. Good luck to the man, hopefully we finally see the Queen challenged in Canada, the last chain of this monarchy bullshit
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:21 am
I think this is total bullshit. This man doesn't even live in Canada anymore. He lives in Trinidad. If he wasn't comfortable taking the Canadian Oath of Citizenship, then he shouldn't have taken it in the first place. Usually, if you are such an anti-monarchist, and you want to immigrate to another country, you choose one which doesn't have a monarchy.
If Canadians want to sever ties with the Monarchy, then Canadians will decide together. It will not be the courts, and it will not be some foreign troublemaker who, as far as I'm concerned, is also a liar. He swore an oath he knew he didn't mean in order to get a Canadian passport. He's taken advantage of this country's laws once, and now he's trying to force us into constitutional change through the back door.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:31 am
Why can't we have an elected head of state like most democracies?
I think most in Alberta would favour this trial...
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sasquatch2
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:23 pm
MacDonaill
$1: I think this is total bullshit. This man doesn't even live in Canada anymore. He lives in Trinidad. If he wasn't comfortable taking the Canadian Oath of Citizenship, then he shouldn't have taken it in the first place. Usually, if you are such an anti-monarchist, and you want to immigrate to another country, you choose one which doesn't have a monarchy.
If Canadians want to sever ties with the Monarchy, then Canadians will decide together. It will not be the courts, and it will not be some foreign troublemaker who, as far as I'm concerned, is also a liar. He swore an oath he knew he didn't mean in order to get a Canadian passport. He's taken advantage of this country's laws once, and now he's trying to force us into constitutional change through the back door.
Agreed! The Queen of Canada represents the canadian state hence he is refusing allegiance to Canada. Rene Levesque stated this position.
His daughter, a lawyer, is just pursuing her own agenda.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:59 pm
I guess one thing about having a monarch as your head of state it means your head of state will always be of the same race, ethnicity and religion as that of the monarchy.... Meaning Canada can never have a black person as head of state, an Asian person, a Catholic or Jewish person, a native Canadian... IMHO it sounds a little racist... As this insures our head of state will always be white, Anglo and Protestant...
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sasquatch2
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:20 pm
stemmer
$1: I guess one thing about having a monarch as your head of state it means your head of state will always be of the same race, ethnicity and religion as that of the monarchy.... Meaning Canada can never have a black person as head of state, an Asian person, a Catholic or Jewish person, a native Canadian... IMHO it sounds a little racist... As this insures our head of state will always be white, Anglo and Protestant...
Now THAT is racist.....
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:21 pm
stemmer stemmer: I guess one thing about having a monarch as your head of state it means your head of state will always be of the same race, ethnicity and religion as that of the monarchy.... Meaning Canada can never have a black person as head of state, an Asian person, a Catholic or Jewish person, a native Canadian... IMHO it sounds a little racist... As this insures our head of state will always be white, Anglo and Protestant...
Race or ethnicity has nothing to do with it, or do you have something against white Anglo Saxons.
The system works admirably no change needed.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:28 pm
I am an white Anglo male saxon...  I just believe in democracies where your head of government and head of state are freely elected... I believe in the Triple E reforms Preston Manning and earlier Reform members advocated...
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:39 pm
stemmer stemmer: I am an white Anglo male saxon... I just believe in democracies where your head of government and head of state are freely elected... I believe in the Triple E reforms Preston Manning and earlier Reform members advocated... We do have an elected head of government, the Queen is titular head only.
A rather excellent arrangement don't you think.
Electing El Presidente is superfluous.
Now where is my Che Guevara t-shirt.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:46 pm
We didn't vote to accept the queen but then we never voted to elect our senators either, and they do a hell of a lot less for Canada than she does.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:48 pm
Having an unelected bloodline for our head of state is sort of archaic for our day and age.
I believe we should finish it off until the current Queen passes away, then re-do our constitution into a defacto Republic with a marginal symbolic/ceremonial role for the monarchy.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:49 pm
stemmer stemmer: I guess one thing about having a monarch as your head of state it means your head of state will always be of the same race, ethnicity and religion as that of the monarchy.... Meaning Canada can never have a black person as head of state, an Asian person, a Catholic or Jewish person, a native Canadian... IMHO it sounds a little racist... As this insures our head of state will always be white, Anglo and Protestant...
Then the Japanese and Tongans are racist, too, because a white, black, Catholic, or Jewish person will never be their head of state?
Or do you have a double standard that you only apply when the result is injurious to people of Caucasian ancestry?
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:50 pm
westmanguy westmanguy: Having an unelected bloodline for our head of state is sort of archaic for our day and age.
The Clinton's and Bush's would disagree with you.
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