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<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=30049" target="_blank">Suzuki jail talk draws fire</a> (click to view)

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<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=Hyack" target="_blank">Hyack</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2008-02-08 12:22:36
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[mtbr]

Unfortunatly his stupid comments only get him more publicity.More stupid people jump on his band wagon of lies.

[hurley_108]

I said my piece on the comment in the other thread, but here's a bit from this article that caught my eye:

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The member from Red Deer, Alta., suggested that Mr. Suzuki talk about grassroots ways of improving the environment, rather than making accusations.

"Let's talk about clean-coal technology or solar," he said, adding that he himself is trying to install 28 solar panels but has encountered

1½ years of provincial bureaucratic bungling.

"We need to get moving on these kinds of practical issues."

Clean Coal Technology will not do a lick for GHGs. The energy is in the carbon, and you have to burn it to get at the energy. The energy is proportional to the mass of coal burned, as are the GHG emissions, and there's not a thing you can do about it.

I also wonder what provincial red tape he's talking about. Is he talking about net metering? If it's a good thing to do to install solar, then it's a good thing to do whether or not you can sell power back to the grid. I may be mistaken, but as far as I know, installing things on your house and messing with the electrical system in it is a municipal matte, not a provincial one.

[sasquatch2]

hurley_108

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Clean Coal Technology will not do a lick for GHGs. The energy is in the carbon, and you have to burn it to get at the energy. The energy is proportional to the mass of coal burned, as are the GHG emissions, and there's not a thing you can do about it.

That's because you fail to realize that CO2 is not a polutant----but the other stuff like SOX, NOX is.
A benign gas--1/10,000 % percent of the atmosphere does not drive climate---just nutbars and usefull idiots.

[hurley_108]

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

That's because you fail to realize that CO2 is not a polutant----but the other stuff like SOX, NOX is.
A benign gas--1/10,000 % percent of the atmosphere does not drive climate---just nutbars and usefull idiots.

Tell that to Bob Mills, and also perhaps explain to him that there's nothing "grass roots" about clean coal technology.

Mr. Mills has learned himself a buzzword, and is revealing nothing but his stupidity by using it in poor context.

[sasquatch2]

Mills is obviously aware of reality not some fantasy based upon a myth of a mythical magical molecule.

China is KYOTO approved and is awarded CCs to sell to boot. Our worst smog days are clearer than Beijing's best.

[Normalguy]

Oh man, the Suzukster again, yeah, what about the 45% of Canada's carbon load coming from forest fires.......try taxing me for that Dave. Sooo tired of his raving, get off the weed man and get over yourself while your at it.

Green! the new Red!

[stemmer]

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

Mills is obviously aware of reality not some fantasy based upon a myth of a mythical magical molecule.

China is KYOTO approved and is awarded CCs to sell to boot. Our worst smog days are clearer than Beijing's best.

China has signed KYOTO. They are applauded by the UN for being good global citizens.

The USA refuses to sign KYOTO fearing it would cause a mass exodus of their industries and factories to China. The USA is labeled evil and uncaring.

YET the USA has a much better environmental record then China... And what about China's the history human rights violations...

There is something drastically wrong with KYOTO. I applaud the stance of the Americans.

[Knoss]

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Oh man, the Suzukster again, yeah, what about the 45% of Canada's carbon load coming from forest fires.......try taxing me for that Dave. Sooo tired of his raving, get off the weed man and get over yourself while your at it.

Canada should subsidise clearcutting as a forrest managment tool

[Knoss]

$1:

I also wonder what provincial red tape he's talking about. Is he talking about net metering? If it's a good thing to do to install solar

What about generating surplus solar as a buisiness?

[PluggyRug]

Knoss Knoss:

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I also wonder what provincial red tape he's talking about. Is he talking about net metering? If it's a good thing to do to install solar

What about generating surplus solar as a buisiness?

You would never see a return on your outlay, unless you lived as long as a Vulcan.

[Knoss]

mabey not solar mabye not now but if tis'a possibility to sell power small scale a system should be set up for it.

[PluggyRug]

Knoss Knoss:

mabey not solar mabye not now but if tis'a possibility to sell power small scale a system should be set up for it.

Yes I agree.....

Many years ago back in England we owned a small 18th century mill (converted into house).

Over a 3 year period I refurbished the water wheel and water channel which was originally used to power the flour grinder.

Then I installed a generator/battery/inverter storage system and sold power to 3 of my closest neighbours. We sold the property before I could recoup my costs. However, it was a satisfying exercise.