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<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=27786" target="_blank">Halt oilsands: water expert</a> (click to view)

<strong>Category:</strong> <a href="/news/topic/20-environmental" target="_blank">Environmental</a>
<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=Hyack" target="_blank">Hyack</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2007-12-02 09:03:51
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[philowl]

[philowl]

Friends from Alberta have said for years that American oil companies run Alberta. The oil sands are a frequently featured destructive process that no one is willing to stop.
Private corporations are inherently destructive organizations that have a life beyond our control. The directors, the executive, the workers come and go, even die, but the company continues on. Millions of people each day put their best energies into the consumption of the earth's resources, converting them into garbage.
The company is driven by GREED, greed for money, and FEAR, fear of losing your job. Any organization driven by two such evil principles should be tightly regulated. But corporations spend millions fighting regulation!

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philowl philowl:

Friends from Alberta have said for years that American oil companies run Alberta. The oil sands are a frequently featured destructive process that no one is willing to stop.
Private corporations are inherently destructive organizations that have a life beyond our control. The directors, the executive, the workers come and go, even die, but the company continues on. Millions of people each day put their best energies into the consumption of the earth's resources, converting them into garbage.
The company is driven by GREED, greed for money, and FEAR, fear of losing your job. Any organization driven by two such evil principles should be tightly regulated. But corporations spend millions fighting regulation!

Oh,before you carry on....gas is Alberta's biggest energy export,not oil.

Carry on.

[hurley_108]

ziggy ziggy:

philowl philowl:

Friends from Alberta have said for years that American oil companies run Alberta. The oil sands are a frequently featured destructive process that no one is willing to stop.
Private corporations are inherently destructive organizations that have a life beyond our control. The directors, the executive, the workers come and go, even die, but the company continues on. Millions of people each day put their best energies into the consumption of the earth's resources, converting them into garbage.
The company is driven by GREED, greed for money, and FEAR, fear of losing your job. Any organization driven by two such evil principles should be tightly regulated. But corporations spend millions fighting regulation!

Oh,before you carry on....gas is Alberta's biggest energy export,not oil.

Carry on.

Yea, but oil is our biggest polluter, and we're running out of gas FAST.

[Pimpbrewski]

ziggy ziggy:

Oh,before you carry on....gas is Alberta's biggest energy export,not oil.

Carry on.

So Zig, what you are saying is that everyone in Aberta has gas !!!

[sasquatch2]

Sounds like two experts disagree but the tree-huggers are convinced because it fits their agenda. They are anxious because KYOTO is to be falling apart.

[kevlarman]

philowl philowl:

Friends from Alberta have said for years that American oil companies run Alberta. The oil sands are a frequently featured destructive process that no one is willing to stop.
Private corporations are inherently destructive organizations that have a life beyond our control. The directors, the executive, the workers come and go, even die, but the company continues on. Millions of people each day put their best energies into the consumption of the earth's resources, converting them into garbage.
The company is driven by GREED, greed for money, and FEAR, fear of losing your job. Any organization driven by two such evil principles should be tightly regulated. But corporations spend millions fighting regulation!

And as long as everyone is making money there how soon do you think they'll stop exploiting the oilsands? Not very soon my friend, money is almost always a stronger force than common sense and self preservation.....almost anyday.

[dog77_1999]

Ok Philowl, if you want to stop the pollution here's what you do.

Find the frequency which the oil oscillates at.
Adjust you microwave machines to that frequency
Cook the oil insitsu
Pump it out of the ground
Profit

There! You use minimal amounts of water, and less energy. Alberta's ecnomy doesn't suffer and you are happy!

[Joe_Stalin]

$1:

The water used for petroleum extraction is stored in huge, toxic tailing ponds that now cover an area of more than 50 square kilometres, according to a recent report by the Pembina Institute.

Any reason they do not recycle this water or do they?

By recycle I mean use the same water over and over again.

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hurley_108 hurley_108:

ziggy ziggy:

philowl philowl:

Friends from Alberta have said for years that American oil companies run Alberta. The oil sands are a frequently featured destructive process that no one is willing to stop.
Private corporations are inherently destructive organizations that have a life beyond our control. The directors, the executive, the workers come and go, even die, but the company continues on. Millions of people each day put their best energies into the consumption of the earth's resources, converting them into garbage.
The company is driven by GREED, greed for money, and FEAR, fear of losing your job. Any organization driven by two such evil principles should be tightly regulated. But corporations spend millions fighting regulation!

Oh,before you carry on....gas is Alberta's biggest energy export,not oil.

Carry on.

Yea, but oil is our biggest polluter, and we're running out of gas FAST.

Were sure not running out of gas by any means.They havent even scratched the surface yet concerning CBM which is very cheap to exploit.There is big time room for improvement with water and the oilsands.The big players have to realize that its part of their due diligence.They are under a microscope now.

From the latest issue of "up here"

$1:

But from his office not far from the Slave, Fort Smith MLA Michael Miltenberger says you can never be too vigilant when it comes to protecting a resource like water. He cautions NWT residents from letting their guard down on this front. They need to keep watching water levels and what Alberta and the tarsands are doing. “The land is our bank. If we spend it all and don’t do it right. There’s no going back,” Miltenberger says. “We need to be stewards, not just for today but for generations to come.”

high and dry in the NWT

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Joe_Stalin Joe_Stalin:

$1:

The water used for petroleum extraction is stored in huge, toxic tailing ponds that now cover an area of more than 50 square kilometres, according to a recent report by the Pembina Institute.

Any reason they do not recycle this water or do they?

By recycle I mean use the same water over and over again.

$1:

At the same time, David Pryce, vice-president of the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers, says the industry is very much aware of how important the issue of water is to the people living in northern Alberta and the NWT and the concerns they have about the water its been taking from the Athabasca River. He says that awareness has led to continual improvements in the recycling of water used in the tarsands process where wastewater is placed in tailings ponds, treated and used again. Pryce says the water licences issued to tarsands projects requires them to recycle 90 to 95 percent of the water they take, and the industry complies. He also points out the industry is continually looking at technology that will reduce water consumption. “Water handling is expensive,” Pryce says. “Anything we can do to minimize costs, there is an economic incentive to do that.” Still, Pryce admits that as the tarsands industry grows and production ramps up in northern Alberta, its water needs are growing despite improvements in recycling and testing technologies that will eliminate or reduce the need for water.

[sasquatch2]

The OIL SANDS is a favourite target of the tofu eaters.

It stands between them and their crazy bicycle utopia.

[Toro]

dog77_1999 dog77_1999:

Ok Philowl, if you want to stop the pollution here's what you do.

Find the frequency which the oil oscillates at.
Adjust you microwave machines to that frequency
Cook the oil insitsu
Pump it out of the ground
Profit

There! You use minimal amounts of water, and less energy. Alberta's ecnomy doesn't suffer and you are happy!

And enormously wealthy.

[philowl]

Private Corporations are the root of resource destruction. Driven by fear and greed, both powerful motivators, firmly entrenched in our country.

The first was the Dutch East Indian Company, created in the 1600s, and later, the Hudson Bay Company, but the first corporation created in Canada was a early Quebec cooperative. Cooperatives are very ancient. A Norwegian said "Cooperatives go back before our recorded history."

Co-ops are people who join together to provide for each other' needs. It is democratic, as opposed to the "royal" hierarchy of the private corp. where the owner or president has all the power. Credit Unions are the banking system to co-operatives.

We should be teaching co-op education in our schools. Then start to convert private corps. to co-ops, otherwise, each day each of us will give our energy to support private corps, and go to our destruction by pollution and climate change.

"I might be a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."