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Title: A look at the numbers behind Ottawa's tariff reprisal against Trump | CTV News
Category: Uncle Sam
Posted By: Robair
Date: 2018-06-29 11:28:06
Canadian

[shockedcanadian]

Why didn't Canada accept the "no tariffs, no subsidies, no barriers" option as offerd by Trump?

All this does is remind America that Canada is not interested in real free and fair trade, they want their Golden Goose to keep laying eggs.

When Trump hits the auto industry, Canada will agree to a NAFTA deal within a week. Book it.

[llama66]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Why didn't Canada accept the "no tariffs, no subsidies, no barriers" option as offerd by Trump?

All this does is remind America that Canada is not interested in real free and fair trade, they want their Golden Goose to keep laying eggs.

When Trump hits the auto industry, Canada will agree to a NAFTA deal within a week. Book it.

Because Canadian's would suffer.... dude, seriously.

[Robair]

Show me where this offer was made.

[DrCaleb]

Robair Robair:

Show me where this offer was made.

Unless it includes the US dropping their subsidy and supply management regimes, the offer would be irrelevant.

[Robair]

There was no offer.

I'm waiting for them to post a Trump tweet. Like that means anything.

[DrCaleb]

I'm pretty sure shockie is talking out his ass like usual too. But who knows, perhaps we missed it?

[shockedcanadian]

Trump makes stunning reversal, says there should be 'no tariffs, no barriers' at G7 summit weeks after imposing huge tariffs on US allies

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-su ... mit-2018-6


Canada is near communist, especially their security apparatus which operates like a nepotistic East Germany.

If Trump applies tariffs on auto, Doug Ford will be dealing with a disaster right away. I say Canada should cut the RCMP budget and transfer payments to pay for these tariffs force some liberty in Canada.

[Robair]

And there you have it. Not an actual offer. Just something trump said.

One of the more nonsensical things he's said given the context.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Unless it includes the US dropping their subsidy and supply management regimes, the offer would be irrelevant.

Supply management is unique to Canada. Neither the US or the EU engage in this practice.

[Robair]

No, they do the alternative tax payer subsidized method.

I'll take supply management over my tax dollars any day of the week.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Unless it includes the US dropping their subsidy and supply management regimes, the offer would be irrelevant.

Supply management is unique to Canada. Neither the US or the EU engage in this practice.

Yep, and it's actually hurting the industry instead of helping it.

The Business Council of Canada (BCC) reported in 2012 that, beginning in 2000, New Zealand and Australia phased out their dairy supply management programs. As a result, their dairy industries increased productivity and efficiency and became global industry leaders.

Meanwhile critics claim the supply system has been a major barrier in free trade negotiations, including in inter-provincial trade in Canada.

[Robair]

Don't know the particulars of New Zealand / Australia, but wondering if they had a neighbor like ours who subsidizes their dairy farmers to the tune of 40%?

American dairy farmers get 40% of their income from American tax payers.

We are supposed to just let that across our border tax free? Our dairy farmers get nothing from the Canadian tax payer.

So we either do what we've been doing, or remove supply management and start shelling out huge dairy subsidies paid for by you, or shoot the Canadian dairy industry in the head.

What is your preference?

[peck420]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

The Business Council of Canada (BCC) reported in 2012 that, beginning in 2000, New Zealand and Australia phased out their dairy supply management programs. As a result, their dairy industries increased productivity and efficiency and became global industry leaders.

May I see a source for Australia?

Their sources all claim that dereg has harmed their dairy industry immensely, with the big question of why it works in NZ but not in AU.

[BartSimpson]

Robair Robair:

Don't know the particulars of New Zealand / Australia, but wondering if they had a neighbor like ours who subsidizes their dairy farmers to the tune of 40%?

And the current US budget that President Trump signed into law a few days ago slashed those subsidies by US$38 billion.

He wants to get rid of taxpayer subsidies to all industries and I'm all for it.