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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:23 am
 


Title: 'A deal for the people': European Parliament approves trade deal with Canada
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Date: 2017-02-15 08:03:21
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Not everybody is happy.

'Have you no SHAME?' Le Pen slams Brussels as Canada-EU trade deal passed amid protests

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/ ... trade-deal

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CETA has endured a difficult birth, with its initial implementation blocked by the Belgian region of Wallonia following widespread public protests amid fears it will hand too much power to big business.

French presidential hopeful Marine Le Pen launched a blistering attack on the proposed deal today, saying it would further enrich the powerful at the expense of working families.

She raged: “The CETA agreement was carefully hidden from citizens because none of you can justify it. You voted on it in private because debating in public, that’s something you hate.

“When citizens understand all of this they will never trust you again. That is why this is a terrible agreement. It will undermine thousands of jobs in Europe.”

To loud applause she blasted: “Are you not ashamed? You’re giving away our rights to legislate and you’re robbing our citizens of the protection of their rights that they expect from their representatives.

“You’re making it possible for multinationals to attack member states so you make sure no new legislation will displease them.

“It’s a disastrous picture and if this treaty is voted for this will show once again to citizens that you cannot defend them.

“This is why it’s important for each country to find it’s sovereignty and determine its own future and the French public will have one possibility to change this fate and that will be the presidential elections.

“It is up to nations to negotiate their agreements and not a non-elected structure which defends its own interests and not the interests of its citizens.”

Her attack followed a withering assessment of the CETA pact by Tiziana Beghin, from the Five Star Movement, who said the powers it would hand to corporations were so wide-ranging it was an effective “coup d’etat”.

Attacking what she claimed will be watering down of food standards, she said: “What has been promised is totally unrealistic. This will lay waste to European producers and manufacturers.

“We’re being carried down a very dangerous corridor with no regulations. Our citizens on the dining room table will be seriously affected.”

The Italian MEP also attacked the controversial Investor State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) system, which allows big corporations to sue member states over laws which run counter to their commercial interests.

She said: “It is a very reprehensible shameful closed justice system creating a triangle relationship between those in power. This is not the type of agreement we want.

“CETA is a technocratic, non-elected construct that will be created. It is a silent coup d’etat. It is an institutional change which is masquerading as a trade agreement.”

Socialist politician Anne-Marie Mineur appeared in the chamber clutching a bundle of papers containing 3.5 million signatures against CETA and wearing a t-shirt with the slogan “people before profits”.

In an emotional attack on the proposed pact she said: “We’re just putting ourselves in the hands of multinationals. We’re undermining the rule of law and putting our democracy at stake.

“CETA is a threat to all of us and I don’t understand the liberals, the EPPs (conservatives) and I certainly don’t understand the socialist and democrats who are not fighting against an agreement of this type with all the risks it entails.

“CETA is a bad agreement. It is just good for multinationals and we’re not in favour of that we’re in favour of the choice of millions. People before profit stop CETA.”

Employment committee lead Georgie Pirinski was treated with a rapturous reception as he denounced the pact, accusing it of watering down workers’ rights and helping profiteering investors.

The Bulgarian MEP roared: “The committee’s recommendation to parliament is to decline giving its consent for the conclusion of CETA.”


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:42 am
 


Too bad the Euro Parliament has no real power.
Oh well.

Hopefully the Dutch and French make the right choice in the elections coming up.

No holding my breath, but we can hope.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:48 am
 


Oooh....Putin's not going to like this.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:53 pm
 


Canada should join the EU.

Or maybe you just did because that Investor State Dispute Settlement System allows the Europeans to sue Canada and to overturn Canadian laws that multinational corporations and banks don't like. :|


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Same ol' trade deal song and dance. Turns out for Canada that a hundred and fifty years of dreaming of nothing better or higher than being hewers of wood and drawers of water has it's drawbacks. :|


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Canada should join the EU.

Or maybe you just did because that Investor State Dispute Settlement System allows the Europeans to sue Canada and to overturn Canadian laws that multinational corporations and banks don't like. :|

Same as it allows Canadian branches of US corporations to dispute EU ones. Not overturn them.
And sadly for zealots of nocooperation on anything, most Canadians support it. A deal with countries who don't pay workers $1 a day or force them to work at gunpoint.


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herbie herbie:
most Canadians support it.


If they only knew the truth.

Artis PABRIKS made a speech in the EU Parliament today, they are debating the CETA.

Makes statements blah blah blah.. applause from the chamber.
This is a great deal blah blah.. applause.

The Latvian thanks Canada for her contributions in WW1 and 2.... utter silence


If you only knew what they really thought of us..


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:55 am
 


$1:
Alberta beef producers, farmers poised to benefit from trade deal with European Union

Alberta beef producers and farmers are applauding the approval of a landmark trade deal between Canada and the European Union.

On Wednesday, the European Parliament voted to ratify the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA).

Kevin Auch, chair of the Alberta Wheat Commission, says the trade deal will give Canada a large competitive advantage over the U.S. — Canada's biggest competition — because it will eliminate any tariffs imposed on Canadian production.

"We rely so heavily on export markets that any time we can secure these type of trade deals it's always good for Canadian farmers and wheat farmers in particular," he said.

The Canadian Cattleman's Association says the EU has the potential to become a $600-million market for Canadian beef annually, up from current levels of between $6 million to $10 million per year.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/c ... -1.3984334


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:D

The UK were big suppliers to the EU as well.
Till they weren't.

The French saw to that.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Canada should join the EU.

Or maybe you just did because that Investor State Dispute Settlement System allows the Europeans to sue Canada and to overturn Canadian laws that multinational corporations and banks don't like. :|


NAFTA is plagued with the same bullshit too.

Bart's and Fiddledog's reactions to this really reinforce for me just how much the current model of "free trade" and transferring power to unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats is hated as much by people on the right as it is by people on the left.

Mel Hurtig is most famous for his opposition to these trade deals, and accused of being an anti-American bigot because of it. Eric Kierans and Walter Stewart further noted how anyone opposed to "free trade" could be accused of being a wimp, afraid to compete with the U.S. More generally, anyone who disagrees with the model is seen as small-minded and cowardly.

But Hurtig himself cited how so many U.S. state governors were opposed to the Security and Prosperity Partnership between Canada, the U.S. and Mexico. I seem to recall him also writing about the various Minuteman-type right wing groups that were opposed to the SPP as well. And of course, a large chunk of the support that got Donald Trump the keys to the White House was his criticism of these deals, and the transfer of power to unaccountable actors. And now we have the right-wing anger in Europe against CETA and similar deals as well.

So reactions like what Bart and Fiddledog have shown proves just how deep the animosity to these deals is across the political spectrum, and how much potential there is for resistance to them.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:43 am
 


Overall, a good deal for Canada. We must reduce our reliance on the US market.

I can understand those who oppose both NAFTA and CETA but opposition to just CETA alone is a bit mystifying - if you are a Canadian.


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