[Newsbot]

Title: Elephant sedative carfentanil becomes deadly street drug
Category: Health
Posted By: andyt
Date: 2016-09-10 09:35:12
Canadian

[andyt]

You've got to shake your head at what people will put in their bodies. I've had fentanyl, dilaudid and oxycontin after an operation. It wasn't any great whoop. (Maybe they don't give the the same dose that junkies take?) I don't get it, just left me feeling fuzzy brained, but didn't do all that much for pain. (Of course I don't know what the pain would have been like without it).

The people over dosing on fentanyl are mostly the recreational users, because that shit is being put in everything now. Insite found 80% of the drugs that users brought in for testing had fentanyl in it. So people who are not addicted are dying from this stuff - you'd think the word would be out by now.

And now comes this shit, 100 times more powerful than fentanyl. In the 70's I saw a hollywood bimbo talk about how they would take a drug called "Jerry Lewis' Kids" because it made you spastic like those kids. Where'e the fun in that? I don't get it.

[housewife]

You can't apply sense to addiction. I will never understand how they can let it take control of their lives like that.

A friend of mine said the same thing about oxy it only cuts the pain a bit and leaves her feeling fuzzy. She said the pain was better than worries about falling which would only make things worse.

[martin14]

Here's hoping for tons of overdoses.

[andyt]

martin14 martin14:

Here's hoping for tons of overdoses.

Sure, because 16 y.o. girls dying is a happy thing.

[Thanos]

martin14 martin14:

Here's hoping for tons of overdoses.

This made the news in Ohio the other day:

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/09/09/co ... ug-scourge

Who says zombies aren't real? Poor little kid, being stuck with losers like that in his life.

[martin14]

Thanos Thanos:

martin14 martin14:

Here's hoping for tons of overdoses.

This made the news in Ohio the other day:

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/09/09/co ... ug-scourge

Who says zombies aren't real? Poor little kid, being stuck with losers like that in his life.

CLEVELAND — A safety director in a city that released photos of a 4-year-old boy in a vehicle with two adults slumped over after overdosing on heroin and fentanyl said Friday he and others wanted to send a message to addicts they should find safe places for their children when using debilitating drugs.


they should find safe places for their children when using debilitating drugs.


safe places for their children when using.



Honestly, this is the answer ?






Give the safety director a big shot, better to make it a double.

[housewife]

The only save place for children of addicts is far away from them.

I don't understand how people can not know this. Anyone so far gone on drugs don't give a dam about anything or anyone can't care for themselves. They can't care for children.

[andyt]

It's not nearly that simple. Many addicts keep their lives under control and can look after their children quite well. It can certainly be better than the alternative of putting the kids in foster care. What those addict parents need is support to make sure things are under control. It's cheaper than foster care and better for the kids.

But sure, if the parents are "so far gone" the kids need to be removed. Thing is you don't know how far gone the parents in Cleveland were. In Vancouver had a middle class couple take what they thought was oxycontin which was laced with fentanyl and they died, leaving their kids behind. The couple wasn't "far gone" at all, just got caught by this fentanyl scourge.

[ShepherdsDog]

Part of the problem here when it comes to substance abuse is the kids see their parents and elders drinking and using drugs, and they grow up thinking this behavior is 'normal'.
What is really frustrating, is the suicides. Some of the younger ones that kill themselves do so because they become despondent over the horrible conditions they see all around them.
Then after the funeral people get shot faced and stoned, setting up the next round of attempted suicides and suicides amongst the youth and adult population.
Personally, I think the endemic alcoholism and substance abuse is just a slow form of suicide. And here you can't escape it....it touches everyone, even people you don't know.

[Public_Domain]

[Thanos]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Part of the problem here when it comes to substance abuse is the kids see their parents and elders drinking and using drugs, and they grow up thinking this behavior is 'normal'.
What is really frustrating, is the suicides. Some of the younger ones that kill themselves do so because they become despondent over the horrible conditions they see all around them.
Then after the funeral people get shot faced and stoned, setting up the next round of attempted suicides and suicides amongst the youth and adult population.
Personally, I think the endemic alcoholism and substance abuse is just a slow form of suicide. And here you can't escape it....it touches everyone, even people you don't know.

Always wondered why the old style of living in isolation appeals to them so much. It's bad enough in Canadian cities with seasonal-affective disorder thanks to the short summers and seven-month-long dark autumns and winters. Magnifying it even more by voluntarily isolating themselves in the middle of nowhere in a dank forest or above the tree-line on the tundra just makes the emotional and mental distress that much worse.

[Public_Domain]

[housewife]

andyt andyt:

It's not nearly that simple. Many addicts keep their lives under control and can look after their children quite well. It can certainly be better than the alternative of putting the kids in foster care. What those addict parents need is support to make sure things are under control. It's cheaper than foster care and better for the kids.

But sure, if the parents are "so far gone" the kids need to be removed. Thing is you don't know how far gone the parents in Cleveland were. In Vancouver had a middle class couple take what they thought was oxycontin which was laced with fentanyl and they died, leaving their kids behind. The couple wasn't "far gone" at all, just got caught by this fentanyl scourge.

Doesn't matter how far gone they were... they didn't put there kid first. I have never met an addict who was able to keep their lives under control. Well other than a functional alcoholic and it only looked like it from the outside. But he did go to work and pay his bills.

[Strutz]

andyt andyt:

You've got to shake your head at what people will put in their bodies. I've had fentanyl, dilaudid and oxycontin after an operation. It wasn't any great whoop. (Maybe they don't give the the same dose that junkies take?) I don't get it, just left me feeling fuzzy brained, but didn't do all that much for pain. (Of course I don't know what the pain would have been like without it).

The people over dosing on fentanyl are mostly the recreational users, because that shit is being put in everything now. Insite found 80% of the drugs that users brought in for testing had fentanyl in it. So people who are not addicted are dying from this stuff - you'd think the word would be out by now.

And now comes this shit, 100 times more powerful than fentanyl. In the 70's I saw a hollywood bimbo talk about how they would take a drug called "Jerry Lewis' Kids" because it made you spastic like those kids. Where'e the fun in that? I don't get it.

What I don't get is why a dealer would put fentanyl into any other drug. I mean, if it is so deadly then the dealer is potentially killing his customers which would mean no repeat business from them. And speaking of which, what other drugs is fentanyl being put into? Cocaine? Heroin? Pot?