[Newsbot]

Title: Mass migration could lead to war in Europe writes MAX HASTINGS
Category: World
Posted By: martin14
Date: 2016-03-19 03:59:44

[martin14]

More an opinion piece, but still worth reading.

[martin14]

This is the important bit, not funny.

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Arguably the most sinister symptom of this vast region’s troubles is the flight of money.

I attended a bankers’ meeting this week at which much of the gossip was about the desperate flight of the rich, together with their money, from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar and in lesser degree the UAE. Many of those able to liquidate assets and move them to Europe or America are doing so. They fear for the stability of local regimes, and also anticipate more inter-state wars.

Strife will continue, and spread across the Middle East. There is no single, over-arching course of action open to the U.S. or Nato governments that can resolve this alarming state of affairs. It can only be addressed piecemeal, through local diplomatic initiatives and modest military assistance.

[andyt]

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My think-tank friend in Washington observed last week: ‘Democracy only works where there is a broad consensus about the distribution of wealth and power.’ And it is because this consensus faces unprecedented stresses in consequence of migration in Europe, that he believes some factions may resort to violence, even outright war.

I think we're seeing signs of that in the US, and it's got nothing to do with Muslims

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Strife will continue, and spread across the Middle East. There is no single, over-arching course of action open to the U.S. or Nato governments that can resolve this alarming state of affairs. It can only be addressed piecemeal, through local diplomatic initiatives and modest military assistance.

He predicts that the seismic turbulence in the Middle East will continue, and indeed worsen, unless or until the West is willing to commit stabilisation forces to the region. He calculates that an army of the order of magnitude of 450,000 men would be necessary, to have any chance of success.

Bit of a contradiction in the piece there.


As the writer says, the biggest push of these people flooding into Europe is poverty and want. It's got nothing to do with Islam. I read a piece some time ago that also predicted this push from the poor to the rich countries, and said there isn't an army in the world that will be able to stop it. Add to that the predicted climate change refugees, and it looks like this movement is inevitable. Oh, well, we had fun while it lasted.

[Prof_Chomsky]

I agree with andyt. This is just the start.

It's just being painted as a religious issue because that is better for the powers-that-be than:

"Well shit. Years of corporate greed and political usury finally blew up in our collective faces. Say hello to the several billion people we've been fucking over for the last century. Also, you. Yeah, YOU! This is your fault, not ours. You're paid too much and don't work hard enough! So get ready for the influx of slave labour you lazy bastards!"

[BartSimpson]

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

I agree with andyt. This is just the start.

It's just being painted as a religious issue because that is better for the powers-that-be than:

"Well shit. Years of corporate greed and political usury finally blew up in our collective faces. Say hello to the several billion people we've been fucking over for the last century. Also, you. Yeah, YOU! This is your fault, not ours. You're paid too much and don't work hard enough! So get ready for the influx of slave labour you lazy bastards!"

On the other side of that coin a bunch of us are sick and tired of working our asses off only to get hammered into paying for shit like Obamacare so illegal immigrants and welfare layabouts don't have to pay for it.

And if we manage to get ahead then there's some shitstain leftist demanding a 'fair share' of what we worked for.

Enough.

Either we get back on course to being a constitutional republic where individual rights trump 'collective rights' or goddamnit we're going to war.

[Thanos]

Pretty sure that a stroll through the good ol ' days of organized labour has no play at all in a discussion of an invasion by an atavistic death cult like Islam. Union struggles have less in common with the plague of the sons of Ba'allah than normal humans do with a microbe on a piece of space rock orbiting Neptune. The Muslims will put you lefties up against the wall with everyone else given the chance. Maybe even sooner, given your tendency to yammer on about social change.