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Title: Calais 'Jungle': Belgium tightens border over eviction plan
Category: World
Posted By: martin14
Date: 2016-02-23 23:36:03

[martin14]

Gotta feel bad for anyone who lives in Calais.
Their lives turned to crap through no fault of their own.


Already 100k illegals have crossed into Europe this year. Still February.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Funny that. Brussels dictates that Europe take in as many as show up and then reverts to tightened borders in their own country to stop themselves from being overrun.
There's a word for that.

[andyt]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Funny that. Brussels dictates that Europe take in as many as show up and then reverts to tightened borders in their own country to stop themselves from being overrun.
There's a word for that.

Sure, because it's the same "Brussels" in both instances. Belgium - Europe's ruler.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

andyt andyt:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Funny that. Brussels dictates that Europe take in as many as show up and then reverts to tightened borders in their own country to stop themselves from being overrun.
There's a word for that.

Sure, because it's the same "Brussels" in both instances. Belgium - Europe's ruler.

Pretty much. Brussels has dictated that British fishers can't fish their own territorial waters. Meanwhile trawlers from other European countries are free to fish those waters all they want.

http://campaignforanindependentbritain.org.uk/fishing/

[andyt]

Just who do you think this "Brussels" is vs the govt of Belgium? Holy fark.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

andyt andyt:

Just who do you think this "Brussels" is vs the govt of Belgium? Holy fark.

Yeah, I got a bit ahead of myself there. So let's put it this way, is the govt of Belgium the only govt NOT subject to the dictats of Brussels?
How is it that the rest of the EU is expected to take as many migrants and refugees as decide to show up and stay, but Belgium is free to tighten up their border controls?

[Thanos]

The EU can't prevent a national government from choosing to once again control it's own borders. I have no doubt that the Belgian national government walks lockstep with the EU on most issues but if the Belgians as a nation decide there's certain things the EU dictates that they're no longer willing to engage in then the EU can't do anything about it. There seems to be a lot of opt-out clauses in these EU agreements, kind of like it's the UN where the arrogant grandeur of an international agreement is entirely dependent on the willingness of any given nation to participate. If the Belgians abandon the Schengen free-movement agreements or the Hungarians & Poles choose not to let any of the miserable rapefugee motherfuckers into their countries at all there's little the EU can do about it. There's no enforcement arm around to coerce co-operation available to the EU in the way, for example, Abraham Lincoln had with the Union army to force the Southern states to stay part of the United States.

The EU's really a hollow paper tiger and always will be. If any nation is willing to put up with some economic inconveniences from not being a member then there's really nothing the EU can do to prevent anyone from leaving altogether.

[martin14]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

How is it that the rest of the EU is expected to take as many migrants and refugees as decide to show up and stay, but Belgium is free to tighten up their border controls?

A lot of EU countries reintroduced border controls last year.
All it means is that there are a few guards thrown up at the main road checkpoints,
and they sometimes check your papers as you go through.
No fence, no wall, usually no checks in the countryside.
All show and no go.


In this case, the animals in the Jungle don't want to apply for asylum
in France, or Belgium, or Holland, because their only wish is to get to the UK,
where better benefits await.

[Thanos]

Lots of swag now available in Britain for rapefugees and chavs alike ever since 10 Downing Street did the patriotic thing by scuttling the entire Fleet Air Arm.

[martin14]

Thanos Thanos:

The EU's really a hollow paper tiger and always will be. If any nation is willing to put up with some economic inconveniences from not being a member then there's really nothing the EU can do to prevent anyone from leaving altogether.

Interesting quick read.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35613206

$1:

The other day they marked their 25th anniversary, with a birthday party in Prague. Now, at last, the Visegrad four - Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia - have a common purpose. Strangely though, it's a negative one: to keep the migrants out of Europe.

There is nothing negative about wanting to keep illegal invaders out.


Anyway, just ask yourself / google why those castles are there in the first place.

Some people have not forgotten their history. Some have.
Some never had the history to forget.


I'm off to run some borders.

[Thanos]

In a way the brutality of the occupation by Communism is the thing that's going to save the countries of the old Eastern Bloc. The Russians didn't allow something as ridiculous as political correctness to run amok in their colonies the way it happened in Western Europe under the blanket of US protection. As a result the Easterners have retained an old European attitude that doesn't tolerate the kind of suicidal weakness that's destroying Britain, France, Germany, and Scandinavia.