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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:34 pm
 


Title: TPP would make it harder for Canada to innovate, Jim Balsillie warns
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Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2016-02-09 11:43:13
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Who is to blame for lack of innovation today? The TPP hasn't even been ratified, may never be, we haven't had the TPP to blame the last 50 years.

He should go have a bath in all his money. Apple ate his former company's lunch some time ago, makes you wonder why...


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:43 pm
 


shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
Apple ate his former company's lunch some time ago, makes you wonder why...


No, Apple didn't. NTP was s big part of it. Apple was a very small part of it.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012 ... -industry/

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120 ... lion.shtml

http://www.infotoday.com/IT/may06/Pike.shtml

The infighting between the founders was a large part of it.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:47 pm
 


RIM is like the Ontario economy, just put a fork in them.

I hear the OPP are doing well however.


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shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:
RIM is like the Ontario economy, just put a fork in them.


But, they had 50 years to innovate, and no one to blame but themselves! :roll: :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:50 pm
 


Canada.

Innovate.


:lol: :lol:


Come on, stop the comedy racket !


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:17 pm
 


"Innovation" in Canada means people working hard to develop new ways to regulate and tax Canadians. :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:58 pm
 


I thought trade deals like TPP were designed so that it makes it easier for Canada to sell what it was good at making, and make it easier for other countries to sell to us what we aren't good at making.

To me, this is completely the opposite of what we need to be doing, which is diversifying our economy. You can't be diverse and specialised at the same time.


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Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
I thought trade deals like TPP were designed so that it makes it easier for Canada to sell what it was good at making, and make it easier for other countries to sell to us what we aren't good at making.


That's the theory. But from what I've read so far, it's more about opening our supply management areas to cheaper (and shadier) imports. Things like milk and cheese and beef.

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
To me, this is completely the opposite of what we need to be doing, which is diversifying our economy. You can't be diverse and specialised at the same time.


Many things don't seem to apply to our economy, it would seem. Things like Healthcare and Privacy, and copyright protections.

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When the previous government touted the advantages of the 12-nation trade agreement, they talked about the benefit to "20th century" industries, such as lumber and the fishery, he said.

"Missing from all of that is IT – it's technology – it's the engines that increasingly we're going to look to from an economic perspective. Nobody in Canadian government that has suggested it will advantage businesses in that sector."

In many cases, the Canadian rules are stronger and make more sense, Geist said.

On the issue of privacy, for example, the TPP would prevent governments from requiring the use of local servers for data storage.

Provinces such as British Columbia and Nova Scotia have laws that mandate government information (such as health data) must be stored within the country, a requirement that means data on Canadian citizens can't fall under U.S. surveillance.

U.S. law provides less privacy protection to foreign citizens, so there would be little protection for Canadian data held in the U.S.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/michael ... -1.3316691

Sure, we can have greater access for our softwood lumber to Brunei . . . but how much will it cost in increased drug prices and the further erosion of our privacy for that limited market?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:15 am
 


I'm sure the same thought process could be applied to other things besides softwood lumber.

Effectively, we are making it even easier to produce and export what we're already good and producing and exporting, and making it harder to produce and export the goods we aren't good at.

When you play gold with your buddies, you don't give your best player, someone who could play with the pros, the best handicap. You give the better handicaps to those of us who can barely swing a club. We should be doing the same for our industry in Canada. All these trade deals are just the opposite.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:30 am
 


Exactly. We are handicapping most of our industries, to favour a few of them it would seem.


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