[Newsbot]

Title: Canada will take in 10,000 parent, grandparent sponsorship applications this year
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: martin14
Date: 2016-01-09 02:42:08
Canadian

[martin14]

Unreal.

[bootlegga]

So they're increasing the number of sponsorships from 2% to 4% (10k out of 250k immigrants)?

Meh...

[Lemmy]

Why should we be outraged, Marty? This affects you/me how?

[andyt]

Bringing in people who are a drain on our social and medical systems but have never paid taxes certainly affects all of us. Lots of gnashing of teeth about our aging population and how the young people will have to support us. Why bring in more?

[Lemmy]

It'll costs you an extra 3 cents. I'll toss in 6 and cover for both us, you cheap prick.

[bootlegga]

andyt andyt:

Bringing in people who are a drain on our social and medical systems but have never paid taxes certainly affects all of us. Lots of gnashing of teeth about our aging population and how the young people will have to support us. Why bring in more?

Wrong.

They will pay all sorts of taxes from day one, including income and sales taxes - AND they don't qualify for CPP/OAS/welfare or many other social programs for a full decade after they land.

The only thing they will qualify for is health care, which most Canadians deem a right, not a benefit. And it's not like they said they're going to allow in 10,000 90 year old grannies and grandpas - they said parents and grandparents. Certainly some will need to use our health care system, but not all of them and not right away.

They also have to live somewhere, eat something, have a way to go places (bus or car), and will need clothes and all the other things necessary for life in Canada. Even senior citizens can provide economic benefit by providing child care, allowing both parents to work (higher income taxes, more purchasing power for the family, etc).

That means most, if not all of them, will economically contribute to the country and not be the leeches as you automatically presume they will be.

[martin14]

Lemmy Lemmy:

It'll costs you an extra 3 cents. I'll toss in 6 and cover for both us, you cheap prick.

Remember andy, that 6 cents also comes out of public money that you already paid for.

So now you pay twice. Or three times.

[Lemmy]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Wrong.

They will pay all sorts of taxes from day one, including income and sales taxes - AND they don't qualify for CPP/OAS/welfare or many other social programs for a full decade after they land.

The only thing they will qualify for is health care, which most Canadians deem a right, not a benefit. And it's not like they said they're going to allow in 10,000 90 year old grannies and grandpas - they said parents and grandparents. Certainly some will need to use our health care system, but not all of them and not right away.

They also have to live somewhere, eat something, have a way to go places (bus or car), and will need clothes and all the other things necessary for life in Canada. Even senior citizens can provide economic benefit by providing child care, allowing both parents to work (higher income taxes, more purchasing power for the family, etc).

That means most, if not all of them, will economically contribute to the country and not be the leeches as you automatically presume they will be.

Not to mention that these grandparents have children and grandchildren who will be better citizens when they have their families with them. We want new Canadians to have the support and love of their families because, well, that's what a happy, productive, peaceful life is all about. Such small-mindedness around this whole issue.

[Brenda]

bootlegga bootlegga:

andyt andyt:

Bringing in people who are a drain on our social and medical systems but have never paid taxes certainly affects all of us. Lots of gnashing of teeth about our aging population and how the young people will have to support us. Why bring in more?

Wrong.

They will pay all sorts of taxes from day one, including income and sales taxes - AND they don't qualify for CPP/OAS/welfare or many other social programs for a full decade after they land.

The only thing they will qualify for is health care, which most Canadians deem a right, not a benefit. And it's not like they said they're going to allow in 10,000 90 year old grannies and grandpas - they said parents and grandparents. Certainly some will need to use our health care system, but not all of them and not right away.

They also have to live somewhere, eat something, have a way to go places (bus or car), and will need clothes and all the other things necessary for life in Canada. Even senior citizens can provide economic benefit by providing child care, allowing both parents to work (higher income taxes, more purchasing power for the family, etc).

That means most, if not all of them, will economically contribute to the country and not be the leeches as you automatically presume they will be.

You are absolutely right.

I have no right to OAS either yet. I have to have been here for at least 10 years and it will be calculated.
The 21 years I was NOT here since my 15th, I will not get OAS for. I will get the Dutch equivalent. Which I will spend HERE.

[andyt]

OAS is not based on the years of work you put in, that's CPP. OAS is a supplement for lower income Seniors, it's strictly income based.

[Thanos]

Lemmy Lemmy:

bootlegga bootlegga:

Wrong.

They will pay all sorts of taxes from day one, including income and sales taxes - AND they don't qualify for CPP/OAS/welfare or many other social programs for a full decade after they land.

The only thing they will qualify for is health care, which most Canadians deem a right, not a benefit. And it's not like they said they're going to allow in 10,000 90 year old grannies and grandpas - they said parents and grandparents. Certainly some will need to use our health care system, but not all of them and not right away.

They also have to live somewhere, eat something, have a way to go places (bus or car), and will need clothes and all the other things necessary for life in Canada. Even senior citizens can provide economic benefit by providing child care, allowing both parents to work (higher income taxes, more purchasing power for the family, etc).

That means most, if not all of them, will economically contribute to the country and not be the leeches as you automatically presume they will be.

Not to mention that these grandparents have children and grandchildren who will be better citizens when they have their families with them. We want new Canadians to have the support and love of their families because, well, that's what a happy, productive, peaceful life is all about. Such small-mindedness around this whole issue.

There's no way that the Canadian experience wasn't enriched from all the contributions this particular family made to our now-theirs country.



Diversity - is there anything it can't do?

[Lemmy]

Thanos Thanos:

There's no way that the Canadian experience wasn't enriched from all the contributions this particular family made to our now-theirs country.
Diversity - is there anything it can't do?

And for every family (is there another you can cite as example besides this?) that turned out shitty, I can cite tens of thousands who are doing right by all measures. We grow a lot higher percentage home-born assholes than we do with refugees and immigrants. Fail.

It's just a good thing that the people actually making these sorts of decisions on Canadians' behalves are smarter than the small-minded knee-jerkers on CKA.

[Thanos]

Won't be my finger on the trigger, or on the remote that sets off the bomb, when one of them eventually shows his true colours. Keep that in mind in your rush to judge who makes a great citizen.

[Lemmy]

Yes it will. Your xenophobia will make people hate you (and, by association, me) back. But you'll be the one starting it.