[Newsbot]

Title: Rick Hillier says the military can help bring in 50,000 refugees by Christmas
Category: Military
Posted By: andyt
Date: 2015-09-13 07:23:07
Canadian

[andyt]

$1:

Hillier, the former chief of the defence staff and one of Canada's top soldiers, called for the government to bring in at least 50,000 Syrian refugees over the next three months, a figure he said he believes is realistic.

Who would have thought that General Scumbags would be such a softie.

[martin14]

Good.

Rickie can bring them, feed them ,house them, teach them English, get them jobs
on the bases.

And we'll take it dollar for dollar from the DND budget.

Then we'll see how fast he wants to move.

Honestly, people are so dumb when they think dropping them off at the airport
is the end of it.

[Freakinoldguy]

I find it astounding that the has the gall to speak for a Military he hasn't been part of since 2008.

$1:

"We've got these incredible leaders in the Canadian Forces, across the RCMP and many other places in our nation who are ready to step up,"

You may have "some" leaders ready to step up but it isn't these Senior Officers who have to do the grunt work it's the boots on the ground crowd which means his assumption that everyone would be onboard for this is nothing short of presumptive.

Is he so out of touch that he doesn't know that the Military has been denuded of it's resources or does he even care? This cavalier CANDO attitude throughout the decades is exactly what caused the problems our military is experiencing now.

Everytime they cut the military they expected the fewer remaining personnel to pick up the slack and carry on at an increased pace and mission rate. Guess what General, not everyone gets to sit in NDHQ and look at the "big picture" some people have to actually carry out the Mission.

I used to think Hillier was an intelligent, non partisan military leader but interviews like this make me wonder if he isn't just another martinet trying to stay relevant and using his former position to play political games.

The interviewer should have immediately gone to NDHQ and interviewed the CDS to see if he thought Hillier's ideas were a good fit for the Military and not just the musings of a retired General.

[andyt]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

The interviewer should have immediately gone to NDHQ and interviewed the CDS to see if he thought Hillier's ideas were a good fit for the Military and not just the musings of a retired General.

Reporters/the media doesn't really do that anymore. Just get the clickbait headline, print whatever is babbled at you, and you've done your job. For balance they might do the same thing down the road when somebody reacts to this piece, but they really don't have the resources nor interest to do investigative journalism - because the public isn't interested. Nixon would have skated in today's times.

[BRAH]

So they're staying at Rick house?

[bootlegga]

While I'm skeptical on the 50,000 refugees claim, I find it highly ironic that when good ole Rickie was critical of the Liberals, the righties here were cheering from the rooftops.

But the second he's says something that goes against the Harper's playbook...

[Thanos]

The better question is why he thinks we should do something like this at all. You'd think that a career soldier who fought against the Taliban wouldn't be so gung-ho to import 50000 "refugees" when there's a certainty that the mass of them will have been salted with at least a couple of hundred ISIS or Al Qaeda. That's the important thing that's being forgotten in all of this race for the soft hearts to outdo each other with how nice they are. Send more aid to the camps in Turkey and Lebanon? Absolutely? When the fighting's over inside Syria put more into the UN relief efforts to rebuild homes and whatnot? Absolutely yes. Bring them over willy-nilly just because it looks great for the left-wing political parties during an election cycle? Absolutely not.

This isn't just a short-term disaster for the alleged refugees. Everyone on the left seems to be going out of their way to ensure that a long-term disaster occurs years down the line after these people have been settled. There's no way that at least one of them somewhere doesn't engage in a major act of terrorism in the future and there's every reason to believe that multiple numbers of them will engage in multiple smaller acts of terrorism in the future. I've never seen anything like this where the politicians of the West have so deliberately engaged in the kind of politics that can only be called suicidal for the countries that elect them.

[Freakinoldguy]

Seems to me that everyone in Canada who thinks themselves important has come down with sudden stupidity syndrome an ailment which includes making noises from their mouth without their brains being involved in the decision making process.

A fact which doesn't bode well for this country.

[andyt]

Thanos Thanos:

The better question is why he thinks we should do something like this at all. You'd think that a career soldier who fought against the Taliban wouldn't be so gung-ho to import 50000 "refugees" when there's a certainty that the mass of them will have been salted with at least a couple of hundred ISIS or Al Qaeda. That's the important thing that's being forgotten in all of this race for the soft hearts to outdo each other with how nice they are. Send more aid to the camps in Turkey and Lebanon? Absolutely? When the fighting's over inside Syria put more into the UN relief efforts to rebuild homes and whatnot? Absolutely yes. Bring them over willy-nilly just because it looks great for the left-wing political parties during an election cycle? Absolutely not.

This isn't just a short-term disaster for the alleged refugees. Everyone on the left seems to be going out of their way to ensure that a long-term disaster occurs years down the line after these people have been settled. There's no way that at least one of them somewhere doesn't engage in a major act of terrorism in the future and there's every reason to believe that multiple numbers of them will engage in multiple smaller acts of terrorism in the future. I've never seen anything like this where the politicians of the West have so deliberately engaged in the kind of politics that can only be called suicidal for the countries that elect them.

Hillier says you are frightened of your own shadow.

Hillier has a good point that taking women and children is pretty low risk.

[Freakinoldguy]

andyt andyt:

Thanos Thanos:

The better question is why he thinks we should do something like this at all. You'd think that a career soldier who fought against the Taliban wouldn't be so gung-ho to import 50000 "refugees" when there's a certainty that the mass of them will have been salted with at least a couple of hundred ISIS or Al Qaeda. That's the important thing that's being forgotten in all of this race for the soft hearts to outdo each other with how nice they are. Send more aid to the camps in Turkey and Lebanon? Absolutely? When the fighting's over inside Syria put more into the UN relief efforts to rebuild homes and whatnot? Absolutely yes. Bring them over willy-nilly just because it looks great for the left-wing political parties during an election cycle? Absolutely not.

This isn't just a short-term disaster for the alleged refugees. Everyone on the left seems to be going out of their way to ensure that a long-term disaster occurs years down the line after these people have been settled. There's no way that at least one of them somewhere doesn't engage in a major act of terrorism in the future and there's every reason to believe that multiple numbers of them will engage in multiple smaller acts of terrorism in the future. I've never seen anything like this where the politicians of the West have so deliberately engaged in the kind of politics that can only be called suicidal for the countries that elect them.

Hillier says you are frightened of your own shadow.

Hillier has a good point that taking women and children is pretty low risk.

I've got no problem taking women and children Christians or Yazidi but, did you see the age of the male refugees. About 80% looked to be of military age which makes the whole lot suspect.

Does Hillier think that the Press, Aid agencies, humanitarian groups, opposition parties or the UN will allow us to take the women and children without the males because if he does then he's the most delusional man in Canada.

[Thanos]

andyt andyt:

Thanos Thanos:

The better question is why he thinks we should do something like this at all. You'd think that a career soldier who fought against the Taliban wouldn't be so gung-ho to import 50000 "refugees" when there's a certainty that the mass of them will have been salted with at least a couple of hundred ISIS or Al Qaeda. That's the important thing that's being forgotten in all of this race for the soft hearts to outdo each other with how nice they are. Send more aid to the camps in Turkey and Lebanon? Absolutely? When the fighting's over inside Syria put more into the UN relief efforts to rebuild homes and whatnot? Absolutely yes. Bring them over willy-nilly just because it looks great for the left-wing political parties during an election cycle? Absolutely not.

This isn't just a short-term disaster for the alleged refugees. Everyone on the left seems to be going out of their way to ensure that a long-term disaster occurs years down the line after these people have been settled. There's no way that at least one of them somewhere doesn't engage in a major act of terrorism in the future and there's every reason to believe that multiple numbers of them will engage in multiple smaller acts of terrorism in the future. I've never seen anything like this where the politicians of the West have so deliberately engaged in the kind of politics that can only be called suicidal for the countries that elect them.

Hillier says you are frightened of your own shadow.

Hillier has a good point that taking women and children is pretty low risk.

Hillier's also dead wrong because taking in all those able-bodied males in between the ages of 15 and 60 is about the dumbest thing that these countries have been doing.

[DrCaleb]

Thanos Thanos:

andyt andyt:

Hillier says you are frightened of your own shadow.

Hillier has a good point that taking women and children is pretty low risk.

Hillier's also dead wrong because taking in all those able-bodied males in between the ages of 15 and 60 is about the dumbest thing that these countries have been doing.

Damn straight! Last thing we want is people who can work and earn money to provide for young families and pay taxes. They should be on welfare for the rest of their lives!

[andyt]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Damn straight! Last thing we want is people who can work and earn money to provide for young families and pay taxes. They should be on welfare for the rest of their lives!

The kids will grow up to be workers. The mothers, with a decent daycare plan could also work.

I think the idea is that we could let kids and mothers in right away because they represent a low security risk. The men could then be more thoroughly vetted before they are allowed in. Do we really want to open the doors without doing our usual checks, which takes months or even years?

[DrCaleb]

andyt andyt:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Damn straight! Last thing we want is people who can work and earn money to provide for young families and pay taxes. They should be on welfare for the rest of their lives!

The kids will grow up to be workers. The mothers, with a decent daycare plan could also work.

I think the idea is that we could let kids and mothers in right away because they represent a low security risk. The men could then be more thoroughly vetted before they are allowed in. Do we really want to open the doors without doing our usual checks, which takes months or even years?

When has anyone said we should skip checking people (single mothers included)? Kids will grow up to be workers, but who supports them till they grow up? Me?

The stats probably* show that letting in young families isn't any more risky than letting in single parent families. The bonus being there is a bread winner in the family that gets them employed faster.

*if countries that are deporting refugees had information on why they were being deported.