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Title: Law & Order: SVU fake sex allegations lead to teacher lawsuit
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: andyt
Date: 2015-04-11 20:25:41
Canadian

[andyt]

Victims should always be believed.

[xerxes]

And thanks to this faker, less will be believed.

[andyt]

women/girls never lie about rape - they have no reason to.

[ShepherdsDog]

Mr C will rant and rail about this man being found innocent. He's been accused....he must burn.

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According to the arbitration, the student claimed the teacher stuck knives and branches in her vagina, waterboarded and electrocuted her, and nearly suffocated her through burial.

But despite the "horrific" allegations, McEwan noted in her report the student was "never once attended an emergency clinic, hospital or walk-in clinic to treat her injuries."

"Nor did her attentive parents notice a thing — not the torn clothing, the burns; neither the bleeding to the extent that blood dripped into the swimming pool, nor her midnight foray. Not the filth from being buried or being soaked wet from waterboarding. Nothing. How likely is it that she could suffer the indignities she says she did and then go home for dinner and homework?"

What really makes this shit ridiculous is this:

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Barber, who previously had a spotless disciplinary record, was fired in March 2013.

But last July, McEwen upheld a grievance by his union, ordering the school district to "make [him] whole." The final outcome of that matter hasn't yet been decided.

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PD, npo one is condoning sexual violence. No one dismisses the seriousness of it. What people take issue with is the trend towards "guilty until proven innocent" with a follow-up of "he was only found innocent because he had a good lawyer".

It's a scary route to take. Not only for those who are unfortunate enough to be falsely accused, but for all of us. How long till that kind of thinking is extended to other crimes? How far down that route are we already when it comes to security and terrorism issues?

No doubt the justice system deals badly with sexual violence, but upending centuries of legal principles is not the answer.

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[andyt]

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So your argument is that women lie! I say fine, bitches be crazy! What is your next course of action after that? You want them punished, and I say fine! What next? Why is that your only demand? Do you see why this saddens me, when this is your one contribution? No clamoring at all for a culture safer for women, just ramp up the suspicion of rape claims. You eat up cases like this so that you have "precedent" to immediately shout down claims. Progress.

So women lie, there is no problem, and even if there is, we simply can't act upon it at all. Three cheers for the status quo. Bravo guys!

Because your demand is to change the rules of evidence where women are automatically believed and any innocent men caught up in that is just acceptable collateral damage to you.

You want to suggest reasonable actions on how to improve things for rape victims, I'm all ears. Actions that don't demonize all men or treat them as scapegoats.

But what are those suggestions? We already denounce sexual assault in our culture, have some pretty stiff penalties for it. You want to increase penalties, fine. It won't accomplish much, but might make you feel better.

One suggestions I have is we quit calling everything sexual assault, find more specific terms. Right now an unwanted pat on the butt is reported as the same crime as rape.

The other one that comes to my mind is for women to be more assertive and cautious with men. We know there's a certain percentage of scumbags out there that will take advantage, we know they haven't decreased the more we have condemned it. So women, be less trusting of guys you put yourself in vulnerable situations with, and quit playing the no means try harder game.

I personally don't know any men who would use force to get sex from a woman. I would guess guys like that hang out with each other, so expecting them to morally censure each other seems like a lost cause. But hey, some of the consent education to roundly condemned here might help some. Getting young guys (high school age) in groups and discussing the matter might help.

I'm open to any suggestion you may have that doesn't just demonize and sacrifice men at the altar of women must be believed.

[MeganC]

andyt andyt:

Victims should always be believed.

The facts should always be belived.

[raydan]

MeganC MeganC:

andyt andyt:

Victims should always be believed.

The facts should always be belived.

His was a tongue-in-cheek comment.

Thing is, even if the courts rely on the facts, public opinion is a different matter.

[andyt]

the problem is that unequivocal facts are often hard to come by, especially in these situations. Absent of hard facts, the decision has to favor the accused, or we have to change our whole justice system.

[MeganC]

Yah true! People believe what they want to believe!

[raydan]

andyt andyt:

the problem is that unequivocal facts are often hard to come by, especially in these situations. Absent of hard facts, the decision has to favor the accused, or we have to change our whole justice system.

Yup, "he says, she says" should be thrown out without any other proof. When we don't, false-witches are burned at the stake.

[xerxes]

True that. And even though the teacher has been completely cleared of all the charges, they nevertheless will follow him around for the rest of his career.