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Title: Maclean's claim that Winnipeg is Canada's most racist city upsets mayor
Category: Political
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2015-01-23 06:04:29
Canadian

[andyt]

Actually he wasn't so upset he denied that Winnipeg is very racist, neither did the other speakers. They called the Mclean's article well balanced. How Tina Fontaine's death (unsolved) can be used as an expample of racism is beyong me. Same with the missingandmurderedaboriginalindigenousFirstNationspeopleswomen. Where we know what happend to them, it's mostly by the hand of aboriginalindigenousFirstNations men. As for the missing ones, how is that racism?

No doubt we have racism in Canada. Winnipeg with the most FN's probably sees it more than white Victoria.

[fifeboy]

andyt andyt:

Actually he wasn't so upset he denied that Winnipeg is very racist, neither did the other speakers. They called the Mclean's article well balanced. How Tina Fontaine's death (unsolved) can be used as an expample of racism is beyong me. Same with the missingandmurderedaboriginalindigenousFirstNationspeopleswomen. Where we know what happend to them, it's mostly by the hand of aboriginalindigenousFirstNations men. As for the missing ones, how is that racism?

No doubt we have racism in Canada. Winnipeg with the most FN's probably sees it more than white Victoria.

Most women who are murdered are, I believe, murdered by their partners. Most Aboriginal women are married to Aboriginal men. Winnipeg is the second most racist place I have ever lived and I lived for 15 years in the southern U.S. The most racist place I lived was not south of the 49th.

[andyt]

Don't want to say what the most racist place is?

I think racism cuts many ways tho, have heard things from FN's that if a white person said it about FN's it would be a shit storm.

[andyt]

$1:

Rosanna Deerchild reacts to Maclean's racism article after appearing on cover

'I am far from the angry Indian complaining about being hard done by,' Deerchild says

After appearing on the cover of Maclean's, CBC Radio's Unreserved host Rosanna Deerchild says Winnipeg is far from the place described in the magazine, which called it the most racist city in Canada.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/ ... -1.2930054

[fifeboy]

andyt andyt:

Don't want to say what the most racist place is?

I think racism cuts many ways tho, have heard things from FN's that if a white person said it about FN's it would be a shit storm.

It was a small farming community in in Western Sask. It was so bad my wife and I had to leave and go north. There, theonly racism I ran into was the usual young punks who hadn't grown up yet. Most of them are now adults and I can call them my friends.

[ShepherdsDog]

fifeboy fifeboy:

andyt andyt:

Actually he wasn't so upset he denied that Winnipeg is very racist, neither did the other speakers. They called the Mclean's article well balanced. How Tina Fontaine's death (unsolved) can be used as an expample of racism is beyong me. Same with the missingandmurderedaboriginalindigenousFirstNationspeopleswomen. Where we know what happend to them, it's mostly by the hand of aboriginalindigenousFirstNations men. As for the missing ones, how is that racism?

No doubt we have racism in Canada. Winnipeg with the most FN's probably sees it more than white Victoria.

Most women who are murdered are, I believe, murdered by their partners. Most Aboriginal women are married to Aboriginal men. Winnipeg is the second most racist place I have ever lived and I lived for 15 years in the southern U.S. The most racist place I lived was not south of the 49th.

I've observed that some of the kids who get it worse than our youngest are those who 'look' non native but have a FN mother or father. We have a few black and more than a few 'white' metis. They get a really rough ride. What was the experience of your kids?

[Thanos]

Burstall-Leader-Maple Creek area? I enjoyed my time there on a pipeline. The Chinese restaurant in Burstall did a great business, but I can see the overall semi-badlands desolation of the area being the kind of place that would be attractive to the kind of nimrods who don't get along with anyone. Different skin colour would be like pouring some gasoline on their usual simmering anger.

[fifeboy]

Thanos Thanos:

Burstall-Leader-Maple Creek area? I enjoyed my time there on a pipeline. The Chinese restaurant in Burstall did a great business, but I can see the overall semi-badlands desolation of the area being the kind of place that would be attractive to the kind of nimrods who don't get along with anyone. Different skin colour would be like pouring some gasoline on their usual simmering anger.

No, North of there. North of the N. Saskatchewan River. I won't name it because there were a few really good people there. The people from the reserves were also very nice, but beaten down and taking it out on each other.

[andyt]

My experience is small towns is it goes in every direction. The only diff is the whites have the economic power, usually, and that may add more bite, but Natives gave as good or better than they got. Haven't been to a small town in years, but at the time what you didn't want to be was non-white and non-native. You had no community to back you up and got it from everybody.

[fifeboy]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

fifeboy fifeboy:

andyt andyt:

Actually he wasn't so upset he denied that Winnipeg is very racist, neither did the other speakers. They called the Mclean's article well balanced. How Tina Fontaine's death (unsolved) can be used as an expample of racism is beyong me. Same with the missingandmurderedaboriginalindigenousFirstNationspeopleswomen. Where we know what happend to them, it's mostly by the hand of aboriginalindigenousFirstNations men. As for the missing ones, how is that racism?

No doubt we have racism in Canada. Winnipeg with the most FN's probably sees it more than white Victoria.

Most women who are murdered are, I believe, murdered by their partners. Most Aboriginal women are married to Aboriginal men. Winnipeg is the second most racist place I have ever lived and I lived for 15 years in the southern U.S. The most racist place I lived was not south of the 49th.

I've observed that some of the kids who get it worse than our youngest are those who 'look' non native but have a FN mother or father. We have a few black and more than a few 'white' metis. They get a really rough ride. What was the experience of your kids?

My kids were all aboriginal. Three were treaty, two Metis and from the community . No problems. Other teachers who had non-native kids were treated as the local kids perceived their parents. If the parents were racist assholes, the kids had it hard. If not, they were treated as just another kid.

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

My kids were all aboriginal.

All your kids are adopted, or they 'look' aboriginal?

[fifeboy]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

My kids were all aboriginal.

All your kids are adopted, or they 'look' aboriginal?

Adopted

[Freakinoldguy]

Thanos Thanos:

Burstall-Leader-Maple Creek area? I enjoyed my time there on a pipeline. The Chinese restaurant in Burstall did a great business, but I can see the overall semi-badlands desolation of the area being the kind of place that would be attractive to the kind of nimrods who don't get along with anyone. Different skin colour would be like pouring some gasoline on their usual simmering anger.

I came from that part of Saskatchewan and the people there are the salt of the earth so your description of them as nimrods who don't get along with anyone is nothing but a stereotype that's anything but true.

I don't know what it was like when you were working on the pipeline but if it was anything like it was when I did it in the late 60's we never got out to meet anyone who we didn't see in a bar or restaurant and there was a definite stigma about pipeline workers that kept the locals away from us. So, in my case I'd never have known how any of the real locals acted and thought if I hadn't lived and travelled the area away from my job.

As for the racism. Every small town in Saskatchewan had it's local Chinese Restaurant and the families were pretty well integrated into the community. The Natives not so much and that's because most of the small towns never saw natives except for the ones hanging around the Regina bus depot bumming cigarettes, money or staggering around drunk so, the perception was that all Natives were like that which, was anything but the truth.

[ShepherdsDog]

A big problem, is many natives see the world as a cowboy and indian dichotomy. They don't see the rest of non native Canada for what it is, very multicultural. Unfortunately, a common thread that seems to runs through the non native segment(Asians, Caucasians and quite a few blacks) of the Canadian population (95%) is their skewed perception of natives. As FOG pointed out most Canadians in urban settings only encounter natives as bums or criminals, they don't get a chance to see native teachers, nurses, electricians, police officers or mechanics.